I guess I was thinking in these terms:

1) ID's are static, non changing, regardless of the subject of the data
(Customer, etc...).

2) Archival data would be duplicated in a separate DB with whatever
supporting info is required, such as timestamps, with no ability for mods by
users. So, a revised statement would be stored in addition to the original.

The down sides are:

1) maintaining duplicate structures
2) sharing documents with other systems, as Larry pointed out, would be an
additional effort
3) If you deal with scanned documents (or simply docs outside of R:Base)
that share the context you still need code for managing them.

It's always interesting <g>

Ben



On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:53 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand the point to a degree.  An actual paper print out is a
> physical document.
>
> A PDF stored on a hard drive is still a set of binary bits on a spinning
> platter.
>
>
>
> Storing a PDF is simply storing it in Adobe's format versus Rbase's
> format.  The
>
> end result, is that it is re-created when sent to a printer, not the format
> it is stored in.
>
> Binary data on a hard drive is still binary data regardless of Rbase or
> Adobe.
>
>
>
> It is true, if you need to have a picture perfect copy, then your Rbase
> needs to store
>
> all the data needed to recreate the original statement.   Which is what you
> are doing in
>
> the PDF, it is simply being stored outside Rbase.  No difference.  You
> still have to create
>
> Rbase programming to manage this external data, which is usually less
> efficient than
>
> managing RBase tables.
>
>
>
> If customers names/data change, then you still have to maintain a cross
> reference in Rbase to
>
> the files you stored outside.  Something I would find a
> little more difficult than if it were all in
>
> Rbase.
>
>
>
> So the real question is... is the data more efficiently stored in PDF form
> or Rbase form.  I am
>
> sure that question has a different answer for different people.
>
>
>
> -Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> To: "RBASE-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:29:55 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Printing a bunch of PDF files
>
> I agree with Larry.  I like having PDF files rather than regenerating
> as Bob suggested.  You have a time-stamped PDF file that "proves"
> what you invoiced on a certain date, rather than regenerating the data
> right now.   If you re-generate the data later, you have to be careful of
> things like client names and addresses.  At this client, their customers
> (the general public) can change their names (get married), move...  So
> you need to prove exactly where and to whom you sent the invoice.  If
> you store the data in a table, you have to store the name/address as it
> was at the time of the invoice, and not do a current lookup based on the
> customer ID.   That IS how we do it right now since we can't store a PDF
> file, but again a PDF file is a better picture of what happened way back
> when.
>
> Karen
>
>
> Here are the benefits that I see to keeping archival PDFs *in addition 
> to*data:
>
>
> A backup of important documents.
>
>
> A time-stamped record of the appearance and contents of certain documents
> at the time of generation.
>
>
> Ability to fulfill document requests without using the database.
>
>
> The possibility of maintaining "paper" copies of records without
> maintaining any actual paper.
>
>
> Integration with other document based systems (such as Sharepoint).
>
>
> --
> Larry
>
>
>

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