Hi Karen

Don't know if this applies to your situation but if I use Gateway to export 
dates to .XLSX with a DDMMYYYY format then Excel changes the format of dates in 
the first 12 days of the month to MMDDYYYY but leaves the rest at the  exported 
format. If I export as .XLS I don't have this problem. RDCC have advised that 
this is because of the way Excel processes the data internally.

Regards
Clive Williams
CRW Services

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> On 19 Nov 2014, at 07:35, Karen Tellef <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Very interesting!  Those posts could have been written by me because they did 
> hit every barrier that I was coming up against!   The last thing I'll try is 
> renaming the input file from .csv to .txt which forces them to go through the 
> import wizard, and see what happens if they specify "text" as the datatype.   
>  If I import the data as a text column in my RBase table, and then later 
> manually change the column's datatype to Text in the spreadsheet, it still 
> "knows" it's dates and sorts the pre-1900 as unknown dates at the bottom.
> 
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Buckley <[email protected]>
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 2:06 pm
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
> 
> Karen,
>  
> Look at this link, it may help you.
>  
> http://superuser.com/questions/568429/excel-csv-import-treating-quoted-strings-of-numbers-as-numeric-values-not-strin
>  
> Paul Buckley
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:55 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
>  
> Got excited about the idea for a second, Paul.  No matter whether I put a ' 
> or a " preceding the text, the literal character showed up in the 
> spreadsheet.  So technically yes then I could sort the dates if I formatted 
> them YYYY-MM-DD.  But they didn't like that quote showing...   They might not 
> have a choice, though.
> 
> Karen
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Buckley <[email protected]>
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 1:24 pm
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
> Karen,
>  
> I don’t know if this will work but it came to me as I was reading your posts. 
> If you create a computed column in R:BASE that is the date converted to text 
> with a preceding single apostrophe Excel may import it as text. I know when 
> you precede anything when typing in Excel with and ‘ it makes it text. Just 
> an idea.
>  
> Paul Buckley
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:16 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
>  
> Just drives me crazy that I cannot export as a TEXT and have Excel accept it 
> as a text...  Sometimes, Excel, I actually do know what I want to do, and you 
> don't....
> 
> Yes Jason I suppose you're right, I could download 3 separate columns and 
> have them sort by those columns.   "Wonky" to say the least.
> 
> Karen
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kramer, Jason J <[email protected]>
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 1:09 pm
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
> Dear Karen,
>                 This is a little wonky, but will allow you to sort all dates 
> in Excel.  Export your dates in four columns, one with the full date, and 
> then one of the year, month, and day.  Import all into Excel.  Excel will 
> still give you trouble with the date column, but you can just tell Excel that 
> it is text.  Sort by the year, month, and day columns, which Excel will treat 
> as integers.  I may be able to shoot you an example tomorrow if you would 
> like.
>                                                                               
>   Thanks,
>                                                                               
>   Jason
>  
> Jason Kramer
> University Archives and Records Management
> 002 Pearson Hall
> (302) 831 - 3127 (voice)
> (302) 831 - 6903 (fax)
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony IJntema
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:56 PM
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Problem with Excel recognizing dates
>  
> Karen,
>  
> It is a pity, but according to Excel the world began on January 1, 1900. 
> Excel is not capable of working with dates earlier than that.
>  
> Tony
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef
> Sent: dinsdag 18 november 2014 18:58
> To: RBASE-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBASE-L] - Problem with Excel recognizing dates
>  
> The database holds patents, so it has a wide range of years, from the early 
> 1800s to future expiration dates many years into the future.
> 
> Excel 2010 apparently still does not recognize pre-1900 dates.  I need to 
> import pre-1900 dates, and they have to sort-able with other dates.   
> 
> If I do:
>     SET DATE FORMAT MM/DD/YYYY
> I can clearly see correct years, going back to the 1800s.  When I export, 
> whether as an xls or a csv file, the raw output file looks okay.  But Excel 
> does not recognize these pre-1900 items as dates.  If you sort, these rows 
> are put at the end all by themselves out of the sort order.
> 
> I tried creating a TEXT column, changing the date format to YYYY-MM-DD so the 
> text column can be sorted.  Then I did a CTXT(datecol) to the text column and 
> exported that instead.  Raw data looks good, and of course it sorts okay in 
> RBase as text column.  But again Excel tried to outsmart me.  It took the 
> YYYY-MM-DD format for the pre-1900 dates, but it "knew" the other rows were 
> dates so it converted them to a date format and therefore cannot sort them 
> together.
> 
> Please someone tell me how the heck I can tell Excel that these are text 
> fields, just accept them as text fields YYYY-MM-DD so we can sort them, or 
> some other way of getting all these dates in together...
> 
> This is really critical to the client.
> 
> Karen

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