Mercy, how messed up is that? Nope, this is an xls, older version of Excel.
Karen -----Original Message----- From: Clive Williams <[email protected]> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 3:30 pm Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Hi Karen Don't know if this applies to your situation but if I use Gateway to export dates to .XLSX with a DDMMYYYY format then Excel changes the format of dates in the first 12 days of the month to MMDDYYYY but leaves the rest at the exported format. If I export as .XLS I don't have this problem. RDCC have advised that this is because of the way Excel processes the data internally. Regards Clive Williams CRW Services Sent from my iPad On 19 Nov 2014, at 07:35, Karen Tellef <[email protected]> wrote: Very interesting! Those posts could have been written by me because they did hit every barrier that I was coming up against! The last thing I'll try is renaming the input file from .csv to .txt which forces them to go through the import wizard, and see what happens if they specify "text" as the datatype. If I import the data as a text column in my RBase table, and then later manually change the column's datatype to Text in the spreadsheet, it still "knows" it's dates and sorts the pre-1900 as unknown dates at the bottom. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Paul Buckley <[email protected]> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 2:06 pm Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Karen, Look at this link, it may help you. http://superuser.com/questions/568429/excel-csv-import-treating-quoted-strings-of-numbers-as-numeric-values-not-strin Paul Buckley From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:55 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Got excited about the idea for a second, Paul. No matter whether I put a ' or a " preceding the text, the literal character showed up in the spreadsheet. So technically yes then I could sort the dates if I formatted them YYYY-MM-DD. But they didn't like that quote showing... They might not have a choice, though. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Paul Buckley <[email protected]> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 1:24 pm Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Karen, I don’t know if this will work but it came to me as I was reading your posts. If you create a computed column in R:BASE that is the date converted to text with a preceding single apostrophe Excel may import it as text. I know when you precede anything when typing in Excel with and ‘ it makes it text. Just an idea. Paul Buckley From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:16 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Just drives me crazy that I cannot export as a TEXT and have Excel accept it as a text... Sometimes, Excel, I actually do know what I want to do, and you don't.... Yes Jason I suppose you're right, I could download 3 separate columns and have them sort by those columns. "Wonky" to say the least. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Kramer, Jason J <[email protected]> To: RBASE-L Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 1:09 pm Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Dear Karen, This is a little wonky, but will allow you to sort all dates in Excel. Export your dates in four columns, one with the full date, and then one of the year, month, and day. Import all into Excel. Excel will still give you trouble with the date column, but you can just tell Excel that it is text. Sort by the year, month, and day columns, which Excel will treat as integers. I may be able to shoot you an example tomorrow if you would like. Thanks, Jason Jason Kramer University Archives and Records Management 002 Pearson Hall (302) 831 - 3127 (voice) (302) 831 - 6903 (fax) From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony IJntema Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:56 PM To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - RE: Problem with Excel recognizing dates Karen, It is a pity, but according to Excel the world began on January 1, 1900. Excel is not capable of working with dates earlier than that. Tony From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellef Sent: dinsdag 18 november 2014 18:58 To: RBASE-L Mailing List Subject: [RBASE-L] - Problem with Excel recognizing dates The database holds patents, so it has a wide range of years, from the early 1800s to future expiration dates many years into the future. Excel 2010 apparently still does not recognize pre-1900 dates. I need to import pre-1900 dates, and they have to sort-able with other dates. If I do: SET DATE FORMAT MM/DD/YYYY I can clearly see correct years, going back to the 1800s. When I export, whether as an xls or a csv file, the raw output file looks okay. But Excel does not recognize these pre-1900 items as dates. If you sort, these rows are put at the end all by themselves out of the sort order. I tried creating a TEXT column, changing the date format to YYYY-MM-DD so the text column can be sorted. Then I did a CTXT(datecol) to the text column and exported that instead. Raw data looks good, and of course it sorts okay in RBase as text column. But again Excel tried to outsmart me. It took the YYYY-MM-DD format for the pre-1900 dates, but it "knew" the other rows were dates so it converted them to a date format and therefore cannot sort them together. Please someone tell me how the heck I can tell Excel that these are text fields, just accept them as text fields YYYY-MM-DD so we can sort them, or some other way of getting all these dates in together... This is really critical to the client. Karen
