It's OK Doug, you can call me stubborn... my wife calls me worse 
and we've been happily married for 16 years <g>.

I guess I should have pointed out that I delay posting here, or to 
RDCC, until I've narrowed the problem down to it's salient parts... 
as the good Dr. pointed out, I'm more often the culprit; and 
sometimes those problems are buried under layers of eeps, views 
and whatever. 

A good example is "Load as Formatted using ColName start end" 
... lots of leading blanks (read currency, other numerics) can cause 
the load to truncate / mix fields.  Passed my initial testing, and I 
was several steps deeper when the "right" circumstances 
presented the problem.  But had I had a forewarning of the bug, I 
would have had a much better clue as to where to start.

fwiw,

Ben Petersen

On 11 May 2001, at 13:46, Doug Daily wrote:

> 
> Ben, I mostly agree except on the embarrassing part.
> (more below)
> 
> Douglas Daily
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> 
> On Fri, 11 May 2001, Ben Petersen wrote:
> 
> > Dr. R>,
> 
> > Having embarrassed myself more than once on the list with what I
> > _thought_ was a bug, I now spend hours, maybe days, maybe
> > more ... before coming here with it.
> 
> While i've embarrassed myself many times, I'll still take that
> chance for a quick response on this list to see if the
> programs buggy or i'm buggy.
> 
> My reasoning is twofold:
> 
> 1) i'm impatient and after a reasonable debugging time, i want
>    an answer now!
> 
> 2) if i spend hours or days thrashing with it, when i could
>    have a solution (embarrassing or not), then i'm making
>    RBASE look bad.
> 
>    In my environment, i'm a lonely Rbaser. I keep telling people
> how fast and easy Rbase is, so i don't want my stubbornness
> getting in the way of progress. (No, i'm not calling you stubborn.)
> 
> In fact, once again i am joined in battle with mainframe ISers
> who can't do really simple things that in Rbase are a snap,
> but refuse to change. They're the ones who should be embarrassed.
> 
> 
> 


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