Alastair -

I would imagine that things are pretty hoppin' at RBTI at the moment - I'll
put a bug in Razzak's ear to do us a full-fledged explanation on BLOBs and
forms & report storage after the conference!

Sami

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error


> Thanks, Sami,
>
> Anybody at RBTI like to jump in - I'm sure that this is an area where we
> could all learn something!!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Regards, Alastair.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sami Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error
>
>
> > Alastair -
> >
> > I don't know of any way to check a form or report for errors in the
> Windows
> > version - in fact, I don't know much at all about the BLOB data - this
> would
> > be a good time for someone at RBTI to jump in with a better
explanation!!!
> >
> > I do know you _can_ still do some things with forms and reports that at
> one
> > time I thought you _couldn't_ do, like:
> >
> > If you want to find which forms use the EEP "Button.eep" you could:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM SYS_FORMS2 WHERE #4 CONTAINS 'BUTTON.EEP'
> >
> > but that's just a teaser for my presentation on "Understanding System
> > Tables" at the Developers' Conference<g>...
> >
> > Sami
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alastair Burr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error
> >
> >
> > > Sami,
> > >
> > > I'm sure that you are right as to the reasons for crashes being
> corruption
> > > and/or code error but I do think that the Windows version is much more
> > prone
> > > to crashes than the older Dos ones. Presumably this is simply because
it
> > is
> > > much less forgiving of mistakes than it was before - fair enough.
> > >
> > > One area where I find it much more difficult check for corruption and
> > errors
> > > in the db now in Forms and Reports as they are stored differently than
> > > before. In the past it was possible in Dos to look at the data for
these
> > > sys_tables and sometimes see if they were corrupted. Now there appears
> to
> > me
> > > to be no way to know if a form or report is apparently working
properly
> > but
> > > causing some problem due to hidden corruption.
> > >
> > > Do you know what happens to the blob data when a db is reloaded? Does
it
> > get
> > > written out in the same way as the "text" data does where an error
often
> > is
> > > obvious? Is there some way to check forms and reports for integrity?
> > >
> > > Thanks & regards,
> > > Alastair.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sami Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Windows 2000 error
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mike -
> > > >
> > > > In my experience, 99% of the time a fatal error is caused by either
a
> > > > corrupt database or an error in my program.   I would do these
things:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  reload the database
> > > > 2.  run R:Style on the command file
> > > > 3.  clear all variables, then trace your script file thru from the
> very
> > > > beginning, one command at a time, with messages and error messages
> > turned
> > > > on.
> > > >
> > > > The other 1% of the time has been a bug and/or code change in R:BASE
> > from
> > > an
> > > > earlier version to the current version.
> > > >
> > > > If you still have problems, post your command file here.
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Sami Aaron
> > > > Software Management Specialists
> > > > 19312 W 63rd Terr
> > > > Shawnee KS  66218
> > > > 913-915-1971
> > > > http://www.softwaremgmt.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ramsour Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:52 AM
> > > > Subject: Windows 2000 error
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I am getting frequent crashes in R:Base (latest version) running
> under
> > > > > Windows 2000.  The error I get is:
> > > > >
> > > > > The instruction at 0x00745x07 referenced memory at 0x1263410c.
The
> > > memory
> > > > > could not be "read".
> > > > >
> > > > > I have done some research on this and find references to similar
> error
> > > > > messages related to buffer problems with Win2K that were
supposedly
> > > > resolved
> > > > > with the latest service packs.  I am running Win2k with service
pack
> 2
> > > on
> > > > a
> > > > > HP Kayak with dual 550 mHz processors and 256 mb of RAM.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are:
> > > > > BUFFERS = 60
> > > > > FILES =60
> > > > >
> > > > > environment variables set and I run with some of the Microrim
memory
> > > > > variables set that were suggested on the list some time ago.  I
> cannot
> > > > > pinpoint this problem to any particular event other than it
usually
> > > occurs
> > > > > while running an R:Base script that I have written.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should look for or
how
> I
> > > can
> > > > > resolve this problem?  Is this a Windows 2000 issue, an R:Base
issue
> > or
> > > a
> > > > > user/programmer issue?  Any help is immensely appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Ramsour
> > > > > AK Steel
> > > > >
> > > > > Voice:  740-829-4340
> > > > >
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