New topic: Real Studio - Love it and hate it!
<http://forums.realsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?t=45940> Page 1 of 1 [ 4 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic Author Message carnch Post subject: Real Studio - Love it and hate it!Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:50 pm Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1 I'm a long time VB/VB.NET programmer (hobbyist) and, having recently switched to using Mac, I wanted a way to write software for OS X. Obviously Visual Studio isn't capable of compiling for OS X so I went looking for an alternative. I tried using Xcode but it is just way too complicated for a non-C programmer like me. Then I found Real Studio. First I have to say Kudos! Real Studio is a great piece of software in many ways. I love the simplicity of the design and how easy it is to work with. It reminds me a lot of Visual Basic 6. I love the fact that it compiles to stand-alone executables with no platform requirements like CLR and that it is cross-platform. That was a biggie for me as I use Linux a lot and now that OS X is in my portfolio I can write an app that will work on any platform. Once the new licensing scheme kicks in I'll be able to code at work, home and on the road. Nice! That said, I have to admit that I'm been somewhat disappointed in the lack of features in the designer and codebase. Simple tasks that I took for granted in VB are more complicated in Real Studio simply because of the lack of functionality. For example, there is no intrisic treeview control. I know you can use the ListBox to create one but it's much more work and not nearly as classy as the native TV control in VB. Another is a lack of methods and function compared to similar controls in VB, such as things like there is no method (that I've found anyway) to return the number of lines in a TextArea. I realize that a number of developers like MBS and Einhugur have stepped up and created third-party controls to help fill the gaps but that requires having to shell out more money. I guess I've been spoiled by the vast number of internal controls and third-party add-ons for VB because I feel that Real Studio is missing a lot of the essentials. As I said, Real Studio is a great product. It brings a solid programming platform to the three major OS groups. I just hope that some of the missing features and controls will be added as development continues. Top charonn0 Post subject: Re: Real Studio - Love it and hate it!Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:59 pm Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:08 am Posts: 1007 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA I agree 100% with everything you said. REALstudio will probably never be able to compete feature-for-feature with CLR languages on Windows, ever. That being said, CLR can't compete with REALstudio feature-for-feature on any other platform. _________________ Boredom Software Top Bob Keeney Post subject: Re: Real Studio - Love it and hate it!Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:32 pm Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:48 am Posts: 3277 Location: Lenexa, KS I highly recommend you take a look at Einhugur http://www.einhugur.com/index.html for a good TreeView, alternate Grid, Date, Time, etc. controls. The marketshare of Real Studio is considerably smaller than anything Microsoft or Apple does. That dictates many of the 'lacks' you mention. Because of the smaller market it's very hard to make a living selling developer controls for Real Studio. Part of the problem is that many in the RS community aren't willing to pay much, if anything, for add-ons. I suspect it's the same with Visual Studio but because it's HUGE compared to RS there are many more people willing to support the 3rd party developers. I know when I was in the VB6 world we paid over $1k/developer/year to keep controls updated for the staff. I doubt I pay more than $500/per year for my entire staff to stay updated in Real Studio. I've written about this issue (and many others) a number of times at http://www.bkeeneybriefs.com if you haven't already found it. _________________ Bob K. Get true Word Processing in your Real Studio applications with Formatted Text Control at http://www.bkeeney.com/products/formatted-text-control 36+ hours of Real Studio Video Training at http://www.bkeeney.com/ Real Studio Consulting http://www.bkeeney.com/consulting/real-studio-consulting Top DaveS Post subject: Re: Real Studio - Love it and hate it!Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:07 pm Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:46 am Posts: 4250 Location: San Diego, CA x=CountFields(textarea1.text,Endofline) returns number of hard lines... not including word-wrapped lines.... 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