Claudine -

There are a couple more options:

1.  Find a backup copy of the rb1 file from before the corruption occurred.
(NOTE: this will not work if you have made any structural changes to the
database since the date/time on the rb1 file.)  Copy the rb1 file into your
working folder, replacing the existing rb1 file.  Now, do a reload on the
database and see if that helps.

2.  Unload all for each of your database tables separately like:
        SET NULL -0-
        OUTPUT IHopeThisWorks.str
        UNLOAD str
        OUTPUT SCREEN
        OUTPUT IHopeThisWorks.dta
        UNLOAD DATA
        OUTPUT SCREEN

Then, RBEDIT IHopeThisWorks.str and search for "CREATE VIEW".
Split this file into two files - everything ABOVE the first CREATE VIEW
statement into IHopeThisWorks1.str, and everything from the first CREATE
VIEW to the end of the file as IHopeThisWorks2.str.

Then, RBEDIT IHopeThisWorks.dta and search for SYS_Layouts and delete the
whole LOAD section for that table.

Then, get rid of the original database or rename it to something else.

SET MESS ON
SET ERROR MESS ON
TRACE IHopeThisWorks1.str
--If no errors then
RUN IHopeThisWorks.dta
--If no errors then
TRACE IHopeThisWorks2.str

If that still doesn't work, then I still have one more way up my sleeve so
post another question here....


Good luck!
Sami

        

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claudine
Robbins
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:15 PM
To: RBG7-L Mailing List
Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
corruption

Javier and Bernie,

I have now reloaded the last 4 complete backup files created with unload all
and every single one reports the 'data' error in RScope for the sys_layouts3
table.  

I also tried deleting both records in sys_layouts3 and RScope reports no
corruption.  However, Access Violation messages continue and db is unusable.

(how do you spell seperately?) separately.  And that's a good idea.  I'm
going to do that now...

Claudine



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier
> Valencia
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:03 PM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> corruption
> 
> You could try doing a RELOAD or an UNLOAD of the structure and data and
> then
> reconstructing the database. TTBOMK the SYS_LAYOUTS3 table stores only the
> layouts of tables of views and it is not critical, if the data is deleted
> it
> should just display the tables/views in the default format.
> Javier,
> 
> Javier Valencia, PE
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claudine
> Robbins
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:36 PM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> corruption
> 
> Hi Javier,
> 
> I'm working with a copy.  I've tried deleting both rows and even though
> RScope no longer reports the problem, the Access Violation Messages
> continue...
> 
> Claudine
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier
> > Valencia
> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:33 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> > corruption
> >
> > Hi Claudine:
> > Whatever you do...backup first!!!
> > Then you can try deleting the offending items and see if that fixes the
> > problem; if it does not, you still have the original...
> > Javier,
> >
> > Javier Valencia, PE
> > President
> > Valencia Technology Group, L.L.C.
> > 14315 S. Twilight Ln, Suite #14
> > Olathe, Kansas 66062-4578
> > Office (913)829-0888
> > Fax (913)649-2904
> > Cell (913)915-3137
> > ================================================
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> > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain
> > confidential and/or privileged material.  Any review, retransmission,
> > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon,
> > this information by persons or entities other than the intended
> recipient
> > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender
> > and
> > delete the material from all system and destroy all copies.
> > ======================================================
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Claudine
> > Robbins
> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:24 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Access Violation Messages and Sys_Layouts3 table
> > corruption
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We had a small surge at the office yesterday and one of my db's is now
> > constantly giving off access violation messages which cannot be
> resolved.
> >
> > Upon running RScope 7.5, I find that there is an error in my
> sys_layouts3
> > table which cannot automatically be fixed because it contains a note
> > field.
> > This table has two rows, one for an existing 'important' table, the
> other
> > for a view which I can easily delete and recreate.
> >
> > What should I do?
> >
> > Claudine

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