That Pereira frame is gorgeous. The adjustable dropouts make all sorts of good things possible.
I like the Fargo a lot. In fact, I have been puzzled recently by the lack of such a bike on the market. Turns out the Salsa boffins were hard at work. I can think of a lot of trips where that would be the ideal bike. It's not for everyone, of course, but so what? I'd be very interested in getting one, except I have been adapting an old GT LTS dual suspension bike to back country touring. My latest experiment has been a Jones H bar, and it's great. I think I have the racks figured out. I'm planning on using it as my Rocky Mountain "camping bike." It will not be the most efficient touring machine, but again, so what? It sure is comfortable! The smaller Bombadils look beautiful to me. Perfectly proportioned and extremely well made. I'm a big guy who usually rides 25" road frames or the biggest mountain frame I can find, but the double top tubes on the big Rivs have a weird "mutant" look to me. I don't have any problems with normal frames flexing, and I can't see any advantage to double top tubes that can't be had with bigger tubing or a 9/8" front end. The extra top tube and its lugs have got to be heavier. Lots of good things have come along in the 18 years or so since Grant invented modern mountain bike geometry. Sure, there have been tons of useless "improvements" in the cycling world in general, in that time, but it certainly is not all crap. As I have said here before, a modern "all mountain" bike with a 1" steer tube and a quill stem would be downright dangerous. I'm always curious when I see someone dissing suspension. I wonder how many of the outspoken critics have actually spent a few hours on a modern suspension bike on a great trail. I used to think it was all a bunch of silly marketing hype and "follow the cool kids" kind of crap. Then I rode a good full suspension bike. I was converted in the first few miles. Same with fat tires on road bikes. I only recently got around to trying some 700x35 Pasela TGs, and I said to myself after the first ride, "Why didn't I do this years ago?" Those tires are now on my Atlantis, which is now more comfortable than my couch. And that's good! Anyway, it's a great time to be a bike geek. On Nov 22, 2:04 pm, JoelMatthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The Bombadil is just over the top. Double top tubes? Hearts in > > the lugs? Let's see how heavy we can make it? Please. > > > Eric > > But double top tubes are functional. They lend strength and stability > for what is meant to be a heavy load bearing, rough road riding bike. > > Hearts in the lugs are a Riv trademark. > > If only it had a disc option. > > On Nov 22, 1:53 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I guess I agree on the beholder part--to me, the Fargo has some functional > > elegance. The Bombadil is just over the top. Double top tubes? Hearts in > > the lugs? Let's see how heavy we can make it? Please. > > > Eric > > > On Nov 22, 2008 11:56am, Gino Zahnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Beauty is in the eye of the beholder on that thing. Phewwwweeeeee! > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey Joel, you might want to check out this. A very interesting and > > > > smart design from the folks at Salsa. > > > >http://salsacycles.com/fargoComp09.html- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
