They may add some strength and stability, but it's a pretty inefficient way  
to get there. Think about the bike mag cliche of "laterally stiff yet  
vertically compliant." The double top tube adds stiffness much more  
efficiently in the vertical plane than in the lateral plane. Just thinking  
back to the moment of inertia through a cross section of the tubes.

And I don't know how many of the people buying a Bombadil are going to go  
full throttle through rock gardens, where they would really care about  
adding strength and stability. Hasn't the rallying cry for many of us steel  
lovers on lists like this, "a normal tubed steel bike works great for most  
everything"? Although I have to admit that wouldn't sound that great  
printed on a T shirt.

Eric
who notices no lack of stiffness or stability in my Gunnar Crosshairs, even  
on some rough singletrack.


On Nov 22, 2008 4:04pm, JoelMatthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >The Bombadil is just over the top. Double top tubes? Hearts in
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> > the lugs? Let's see how heavy we can make it? Please.
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> >
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> > Eric
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>
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> But double top tubes are functional. They lend strength and stability
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> for what is meant to be a heavy load bearing, rough road riding bike.
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>
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> Hearts in the lugs are a Riv trademark.
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> If only it had a disc option.
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> On Nov 22, 1:53 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > I guess I agree on the beholder part--to me, the Fargo has some  
functional
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> > elegance. The Bombadil is just over the top. Double top tubes? Hearts in
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> > the lugs? Let's see how heavy we can make it? Please.
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> >
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> > Eric
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> >
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> > On Nov 22, 2008 11:56am, Gino Zahnd wrote:
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> > > Beauty is in the eye of the beholder on that thing. Phewwwweeeeee!
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> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Hey Joel, you might want to check out this. A very interesting and
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> > > smart design from the folks at Salsa.
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> >
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> > >http://salsacycles.com/fargoComp09.html
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> >
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>

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