on 12/23/08 8:20 AM, Atlantean at softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> I understand why a lot of cyclists want to hang on to forged aluminum
> stems for aesthetic reasons. But like lugs, pneumatic tires,
> cotterless cranks, aluminum rims and dozens of other things, they were
> introduced as a technical improvement. Forged aluminum stems are much
> lighter than forged steel stems, and they don't rust. We like forged
> aluminum stems for the same reason we like lugs. They look great.
> 
> Like cassette hubs, index shifting, dual pivot brakes, single rail
> saddles, and on and on, threadless forks have a certain inevitability
> about them because they are technical improvements. Yes, it's easier
> to raise and lower your bars within a narrow range with a quill stem,
> but that's the only advantage I can see other than the aesthetic one.
> For someone like me, the higher I go with a quill stem, the floppier
> it gets, so raising the bar by exposing more quill is not exactly an
> advantage to me. Having the option of a threadless fork on a Riv is
> not a crazy idea. It's even a reality, in said Legolas. I would bet
> there's more than one Legolas out there all tricked out for touring,
> like all those Cross Checks.

I'd probably take that bet... ;^)

I don't think there are a lot of Legolases (Legolai?) out there to begin
with, but the Warning has always been that these are racing-type bikes, with
lighter than Riv-normal frame tubing thicknesses.  Specifically,

"Please don¹t get one with the intention of using it as a lightweight
version of an Atlantis ­ it¹s not designed for loaded touring."

I've seen one set up as a long distancey brevet type rig: Veronica's over at
TandemHearts - 
http://tinyurl.com/89ar82

But, never one with bags lashed to racks...

- Jim

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