Hi All,

Checking e-mail for the first time in a couple of days and just saw all
these messages.  I just moved to the San Diego area and this sounds like
lots of fun.  I¹d love to join up with whatever ride you plan, hilly or
flat.  I don¹t have a Riv to bring, but my lugged Kirk is pretty Rivish and
I¹ve got more wool than some sheepherders in Wyoming.

Cheers,

Dustin Sharp
San Diego, CA


On 12/27/08 1:52 PM, "Doug Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow!  Leave you guys alone for 12 hours & see what happens!  I haven¹t met any
> of you & I think I like this group.  I¹ll try the Flickr thing & see how it
> works.  This multiple reply to all emailing is a bit cumbersome.  And we¹d
> better get off list before we further contribute to the depression of people
> in snow country. 
>  
> We should discuss & fine tune the route, especially in deference to not
> knowing each others abilities & interests and to not deter the SS guys.  Not
> being a SS rider I¹m not sure how limiting that may be but lets take it into
> account.  Someone else mentioned not wanting to do killer hills so we¹ll avoid
> Sleeping Indian.
>  
> I¹ll check the Flickr & see you there.
>  
> dougP
>  
> 
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Estes
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Rob Harvey;
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>  
> 
> OK, there's a flickr group I set up real quickly... we can discuss
> date/time/logistics in that discussion area, but also post finalized info here
> on RBW.  Anyone can view the flickr discussion, but you have to log in via a
> Yahoo account to contribute to it.
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/1007...@n22/
> 
>  
> 
> Let me know if there are any better ideas floating out there... :-)
> 
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:06 PM, David Estes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just down the road, I think you have to go!
> 
> 
>  
> 
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:34 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you take this off-list, please add me to the group.  I'm in Rancho Santa Fe
> and may try to make all or some of the ride.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2008, at 12:37 PM, "David Estes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think option A sounds great!  If there are some more Quickbeams/SS bikes,
>> I'd prefer to bring mine.  Friend Rob can be talked into his (I think).
>> Esteban, you going to roll on the QB?  Riding a QB with a bunch of geared
>> bikes is not the most fun in the world for me... :-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm free anytime throug the 12th, so will let the rest of you come up w/ a
>> good date/time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Should we start taking this conversation off list?
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM, RM < <mailto:[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Doug's option A does sounds good--south of Escondido you can go
>> through Elfin Forest/Del Dios and then back to the coast at Encinitas
>> then up to Oceanside. Hilly, but not heinous. I can join on my
>> Quickbeam. I live in Coronado and can Coaster up to Oceanside.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 26, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> >
>>> > Doug's idea sounds good to me also. As far as milage, I'm good to up
>>> > to about 50 as long as we don't do any heinous climbs...
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 26, 6:42 pm, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> Doug's Option A sounds pretty good - I've never ridden East from up
>>>> >> there, and it seems convienent for most OC IE and SD people, using
>>>> >> rail is a bonus.  We can do other rides next time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm on winter break, so free anytime (weekends OK too) except
>>>> >> Mondays.
>>>> >> -Esteban
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Dec 26, 5:38 pm, "Doug Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> The Oceanside train station is convenient.  OC & IE people can
>>>>> >>> get there on
>>>>> >>> Metrolink & SD people can come up on the Coaster.  From the
>>>>> >>> station, a good
>>>>> >>> general direction is to go inland (east) along the river trail &
>>>>> >>> up to
>>>>> >>> Fallbrook, south past Escondido, then there's a variety of ways
>>>>> >>> to go west
>>>>> >>> back to the coast, depending on how much mileage we want to do.
>>>>> >>> I'd suggest
>>>>> >>> something in the 40-50ish range.
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Another option that's a little more complicated would be to meet
>>>>> >>> in Rancho
>>>>> >>> Bernardo area & do part of the Amgen route.  The complication
>>>>> >>> would be
>>>>> >>> either driving to the meet point (boooo!) or taking the Sprinter
>>>>> >>> from
>>>>> >>> Oceanside into Escondido (a 1 hour trip).
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> So David has 3-5 from the IE.  I don't know any other
>>>>> >>> Rivendellians here in
>>>>> >>> OC who'd join us but a couple of my touring buds would be
>>>>> >>> interested.  How
>>>>> >>> many San Diegans?  And you San Diego locals may have routes you'd
>>>>> >>> like to
>>>>> >>> suggest.
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> dougP
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>   _____
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> >>> [mailto: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Estes
>>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:02 PM
>>>>> >>> To:  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> >>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Three cheers for the gainfully employed!!!!
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Can't speak for other SoCalians, but I was thinking Oceanside to
>>>>> >>> somewhere
>>>>> >>> in S.D.???  Or San Clemente to Oceanside and back.  Guess it'll
>>>>> >>> depend if
>>>>> >>> more O.C. people jump on board vs. S.D. folk.  I've got about
>>>>> >>> three-five IE
>>>>> >>> people that can Metrolink down to wherever...
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> DE
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> unfortunatly , I'm one of those guys that have a job so the
>>>>> >>> weekend is
>>>>> >>> best for me. BTW- what kind of ride are we talking here, as far as
>>>>> >>> milage/elevation?
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Dec 25, 12:32 pm, "David Estes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> I'm available anytime as well... but am guessing weekend would
>>>>>> >>>> be better
>>>>> >>> for
>>>>>> >>>> most normal people... I am definitely not one of those...
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> David "uh-oh, it's raining outside, can't go for a ride now" Estes
>>>>>> >>>> Redlands, CA
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Doug Peterson
>>>>>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>  I'm available any time.  Are you guys free during the week or
>>>>>>> >>>>> only
>>>>>>> >>>>> weekends?  Where does everyone live?  I'm in Irvine.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> BTW, that last day of the tour will be interesting.  The climb
>>>>>>> >>>>> up Mt
>>>>>>> >>>>> Palomar will be the place to be but Highland Valley Rd, just
>>>>>>> >>>>> east of
>>>>> >>> Rancho
>>>>>>> >>>>> Bernardo, should also be good.  Maybe a scouting ride is in
>>>>>>> >>>>> order.  But
>>>>> >>> not
>>>>>>> >>>>> the entire loop in one day, OK?
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> dougP
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> *From:*  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> [email protected] [mailto:
>>>>>>> >>>>>  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Estes
>>>>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:40 PM
>>>>>>> >>>>> *To:*  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Between the 4th and 11th works fine for me...
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I'm in Sonoma County until the 30th, but could do something after
>>>>>>> >>>>> that.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Dec 23, 5:56 pm, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm interested, for sure.  It would be nice to meet many of
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> you in
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> person.  I'm in SF until Jan. 4th - but if you guys get
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> together before then, I'll just make the next one.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 23, 5:31 pm, "David Estes" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/Route/stages/stage8.html>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/Route/stages/stage8.html
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, any thoughts re. a SoCal coastal get-together in the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> upcoming
>>>>>>> >>>>> days?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Between Boxing Day and the 12th I'm pretty much available...
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> DE
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Doug Peterson
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We've got to find a good long hill where we can watch.  I
went
>>>>> >>> with
>>>>>>> >>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> people from LA last year to the top of a grade somewhere out
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ventura County.  It was a circus & a lot of fun.  The actual
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> race
>>>>>>> >>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> by so quickly, even on a steep grade, it's pretty amazing.
But
>>>>> >>> it's
>>>>>>> >>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> those "getting there is half the fun" gigs.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The course is probably posted & we can figure it out.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Coming up
>>>>>>> >>>>> soon.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dougP
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [mailto: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It starts in Ranch Bernardo (Poway area) and finishes in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> downtoen
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Escondido...sounds good to me
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 12:44 pm, rinjin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Keep us posted if this idea gains traction. My brother
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> lives in
>>>>>>> >>>>> O'side
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and I've ridden there with him a few times. Some very nice
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> rides
>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the area. To the north there's the Pendleton ride through
the
>>>>>>> >>>>> Marine
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> base and up the coast to Trestles and San Onofre.
Southward
>>>>> >>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Swami's and La Jolla. Best burritos are in Carlsbad. I
haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> traveled with my Ram before, but there's always a first
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> time. If
>>>>> >>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wanted to get ambitious (in terms of organization) it's
worth
>>>>>>> >>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> about the Tour de (duh?) California's schedule. I believe
the
>>>>> >>> ninth
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and final stage will start in the Escondido area.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 11:20 am, "David Estes"
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Doug, great idea!  L.A./O.C./I.E. folks could Metrolink
down
>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oceanside,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S.D. people could Metrolink or ride up.  Everyone rolls
south
>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>>> >>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Metrolink home!  Oceanside could be the meet-up, or
maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> >>>>> San
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clemente
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if we're really motivated (not sure what shape I'm in
for
>>>>> >>> that,
>>>>>>> >>>>> but an
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> option...)
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> DE
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Doug Peterson <
>>>>>>> >>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Although I'm up on Orange County, I'd be interested.
So
>>>>> >>> far,
>>>>>>> >>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> only run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> into one other Riv rider in my area, another guy with
an
>>>>>>> >>>>> Atlantis, &
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> lives about 5 miles away.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One of the things my touring buds & I do is take
Metrolink
>>>>> >>> down
>>>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Oceanside
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> & either ride from there south or a couple of times
we've
>>>>> >>> taken
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sprinter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> out to Escondido & ridden from there.  Downtown for an
>>>>>>> >>>>> overnight or
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> loops
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> back to Oceanside.  Basically north county for you
guys.
>>>>> >>> Might
>>>>>>> >>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> fun
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> explore further south.  Keep me in the loop.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> dougP
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>>> >>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Meet a new Rivendellian today!
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Esteban,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That sounds good to me, I'll be back after the new
year as
>>>>>>> >>>>> well. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> know I met a guy in Encinitas one that said he rode an
>>>>> >>> Atlantis
>>>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> think...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 8:58 pm, Esteban <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Congrats on the mileage.  We need to get a little San
>>>>> >>> Diego
>>>>>>> >>>>> ride
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> together - maybe up to one of our stellar breweries.
I'm
>>>>>>> >>>>> back in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> town
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from SF after the new year.  There's quite a few of
us, I
>>>>>>> >>>>> think.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 4:21 pm, Steve Palincsar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:35 -0800, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Patrick!
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW- To all the Saluki owners...I really wasn't
saying
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bleriot is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> comperable the Saluki, I'm sure there are tons of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> differences...it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just striking to see the similarities. Of course,
the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> description of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the intent of the bike is is pretty much the
same
>>>>> >>> on
>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Riv
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, the similarities are intentional.  The
Bleriot
>>>>>>> >>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be a less expensive version of the Saluki.
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Redlands, CA
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Redlands, CA
>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >>>>> David
>>>>>>> >>>>> Redlands, CA
>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> >>>> David
>>>>>> >>>> Redlands, CA
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> read more »
>>>> > >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 



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