Charlie makes a good point. Doesn't the AHH do fine as a "go fast" bike - maybe with 28mm Paselas like I ride on my Rom (I don't own a Ram - my error), or even as Jim's "C.X. Hilsen" project? I love my Romulus, and it moves quick - but can't the AHH ride fast similar *enough* with the added bonus of serious country-bike versatility?
On Jan 18, 8:35 am, charlie <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a general reply rather than specific to anyone so........I > just don't get the 'go fast' concept here. I really can't see where a > couple of pounds makes much, if any difference. I mean, any bike can > take a narrower tire and you can dispense with the racks and bags so > where is the mysterious speed gain of having a short reach braked bike > that weighs a couple of pounds less. I have a vintage, lugged steel, > 21 pound all Campy race bike with 25mm tires (soon to be tubulars) and > it really isn't a whole lot easier to ride than my 30 pound, racked > tour bike, if I run 32mm tires on it. At my weight, over the rough > chipseal I often ride on the wider tires actually seem to be faster > and on asphalt the race bike accelerates faster but that's about it. > If i want to go fast on flats and rollers I ride my recumbent until I > get to steep hills then.............I lay back and grind up. Its all > very subtle when it comes to the differences between one style of > steel bike and another and when you consider the trade offs in utility > and durability you often find yourself ultimately going back to what > works and makes sense. IMHO! Grant is on to something either way and > I'm glad he is making available some fine bikes. I'm continuing to > save my money. > > On Jan 18, 8:07 am, "Bill M." <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Look at the SOMA Speedster. For $800 it's a lugged steel sport frame > > and fork built for 57 mm reach brakes, with chromed head lugs and fork > > crown, room for 32's, and two sets of rear eyelets. Yes, the steerer > > is 1-1/8" threadless, but that's not a deal breaker for most riders > > these days. It's even painted dark red as requested here. The SOMA > > has angles within 1/2 degree of my '95 Riv Road, and probably better > > clearance (the Road used short reach brakes, as did the '91 RB-1 I > > owned), and costs $100 less than I paid for my Riv in '95. > > > I'd want the Speedster to have an extended head tube and a little more > > BB drop, but I could make one work for me. IMO it would be pretty > > tough for Riv to compete with the Soma in the RB-1-like go-fast > > market. I can't really blame Grant for sticking to turf where he can > > offer something more unique. > > > This isn't an ad, I've never ridden the SOMA (or even seen one in > > person), and my old Riv Road will continue to be my go-fast bike. I'm > > just saying... > > > Bill > > > On Jan 17, 2:28 pm, Aaron Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I fully concur with Patrick and James. I've recently come into > > > possession of an old RB-2 (a hand-me-down from a generous friend). By > > > Rivendell's high standards, the lugwork is kind of cheap in > > > comparison. But, man, does that bike smoke! > > > > As the proud owner of a Romulus, my allegiance has been slowly > > > shifting to the RB-2. It is quick, responsive, and simply flies up > > > hills in ways that make the Romulus feel tired and plodding. I don't > > > know what to chalk it up to (non-OS tubing, different geometry, > > > lighter weight, who knows?), but it sure makes me wish that Rivendell > > > could bring back something like the RB-1 (or -2) for unloaded, fast, > > > road-specific riding. > > > > Produced in Taiwan at Bleriot-ish prices with a simple, one-color > > > paint job (maybe the old, deep RB-1 or Legolas red), and designed > > > around, say, a 25mm Pro Race tire -- I bet it would sell like > > > hotcakes. > > > > -Aaron > > > > On Jan 17, 1:23 pm, James Warren <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Patrick, I agree. I think the Rivendell offerings are amazing, but > > > > nothing is perfect. If it were possible, I would love if Rivendell > > > > added just one more bike to their line-up, basically one like the Heron > > > > road, with that sport geometry you mention, and nice understated looks > > > > and a resonably low cost. Lugged, maybe Taiwan, single-color and Heron > > > > road type geometry. But still with mini-rack braze-ons! > > > > > -Jim-----Original Message----- > > > > From: PATRICK MOORE > > > > Sent: Jan 17, 2009 1:07 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates > > > > With the not-so-recent proliferation of high bars, retentionless > > > > pedals, fat tires, load capacity, and so on, does Riv have any model > > > > that in basic theme if not details corresponds to the RB-1, that is, a > > > > decently priced, unpretentious, well performing sport bike? My last Riv > > > > was '03 and it as well as the other two were very much in the category > > > > of "fast sport bike meant for riding very much exclusively on > > > > pavement". I'm not particularly fast, but that's the kind of bike I > > > > want for much of my riding. If I want to ride off road, I'll use > > > > another bike.On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM, James > > > > Warren<[email protected]>wrote:http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=none > > > > Note the Quickbeam and the new Which Bike For What Chart. I like it. > > > > Atlantis/Ram/Rom/Redwood: that's so 2003. Things change - embrace it. > > > > Now it's Atlantis/Homer/Sam/Bombadil/Betty/QB > > > > The new regime has more versatility than the old. And with Homer taking > > > > Ram's duties, I think things have evolved quite nicely. > > > > I wonder if outsiders who just think Rivedell is "old school" can > > > > recognize even one bit of the evolution. Fun stuff. > > > > -Jim --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
