I've never had this problem, but then I've not put more than about 2-3K
miles on the ones mounted on production frames. (One was already very old
when I installed it.) As for the Phils on the 2 custom Rivs, one has ~ 5500
miles and the other ~9,500, and both feel as they did when new. The third: I
forget how many, but it was on a Waterford Riv and racked up many good miles
without problem.

The other chichi bbs I used -- Sampson, Am Classic, Grafton, Syncros, at
least one other whose name I forget but Perf sold it for a while -- did not
call for this task in their instructions; and again, no problems, at least
in 2-3K miles.

So, I expect this is one of those situations where half the user population
had problems while the other half did not. Thank God I seem to fall into the
latter category.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM, MichaelH <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I don't remember seeing this on the Phil Wood Web site, nor the
> required tool.  If it's that critical Phil ought to be selling a
> simple tool to check it.  What about other cartridge bb, like White or
> King?  Do they have the same sensitivities?
>
> Michael
> Westford, Vt
>
> On Feb 6, 10:20 am, John McMurry <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Peter White has said before that premature failure of a Phil bottom
> > bracket is due to the bottom bracket shell threads not being aligned.
> >
> > Here's an excerpt from one of these discussions:
> >
> > "For a Phil Wood BB to last, the frame's BB threads must be chased
> > with a
> > tool that indexes one side of the shell with the other so that the
> > threads on each side share a common axis. Campagnolo and a few other
> > companies make tooling that, when used properly, ensures that the
> > threading is correct, and then, and only then, will you get the full
> > life of the Phil Wood bearings."
> >
> > from here:
> >
> > http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=touring.10709.0545.eml
> >
> > Makes sense to me.
> >
> > John McMurry
> > Burlington, VT
> >
>

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