> I see no point in riding on tires less than 32 mm unless you are in a
> race or are messenger.

Well, it is a point I have made in the past, but bears repeating: Good
treadless tires lower resistance and improve speed whether they are
terribly narrow or not.  The Schwalbe Kojak is a healthy 35 but is a
rather fast tire compared to many other smaller tires with treads.
Unless you find yourself riding on loose surfaces regularly, tread is
not necessary.

On Feb 9, 3:29 pm, Brooklyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>  My Atlantis, which is a year and a half old is the standard build,
> with 35 mm tires.   I have n't put any racks on it, just a small
> saddle bag.    I find it pretty fast for what it is. I have couple of
> old road bikes that are probably heavier so, I never did feel really
> sluggish on the Atlantis.   I bought this bike because I wanted many
> options, including some heavier touring. And I like that fact  that it
> is quite good on the messy roads of NYC where I do most of my
> riding.    I think a narrower set of handlebars would make it feel a
> bet faster and I am considering doing so when the tapes need changing--
> not yet.
>
> I see no point in riding on tires less than 32 mm unless you are in a
> race or are messenger.
>
> I wish Riv  would bring back the Ram.   I would be tempted to get one
> of them and unload my other bikes.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On Feb 9, 1:04 pm, charlie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps you might benefit more from one of the other lighter frames in
> > the lineup. The Atlantis seems overbuilt in my opinion for a 155 pound
> > rider.  I think I'd leave the Atlantis as is with some decent 32-35 mm
> > tires and just take off the racks if you don't use them. To me it
> > seems like its trying to make a jeep into a formula one car......or
> > maybe not.
> >  I have a sub 21 pound vintage race bike and its definitely easier to
> > corner, accelerate and climb hills with (to a point)  but its not any
> > faster really. My near exact Atlantis clone has the low gearing and
> > the comfort factor that can't be matched by any other bike I have and
> > I enjoy the carefree attributes of the sturdy touring design.  Maybe
> > its just that I am old, fat and into comfort rather than speed that I
> > wouldn't change anything. Either way its fun (but expensive) to play
> > around with different components and who knows, you might hit on the
> > perfect blend of parts for your needs.
>
> > On Feb 8, 8:35 pm, Dave C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > My Atlantis is built up in the standard component package, and I've
> > > added a generator light, Nitto rear rack and Mini front rack, and
> > > saddlebag.  It weights 30+ pounds with my saddlebag, I'm sure.  But I
> > > am interested in seeing them built up as road machines after putting
> > > some of the 31 mm Avocet Duro Plus skinwall tires on my rims after
> > > running the 35 mm Paselas.  It felt so much zippier.  I'm a light guy
> > > (155 #) and some of the component choices I made are a little beefier
> > > than I really needed, particularly since I have no time to take it
> > > loaded touring.  Two little daughters and a high school teaching
> > > position has an effect on your time and what you can do, you
> > > know :)
>
> > > I was impressed with the low weights of some of the French
> > > constructeur bikes highlighted by Jan Heine, and it seems that there
> > > are smart ways to keep the functionality of my bike and reduce the
> > > weight.  For instance, my SKS fenders are warped and the rear is
> > > broken, so the replacement fenders will be one of the lighter options
> > > out there.  I have a heavy Mavic 719 rear rim that I spec'ed for my
> > > touring, but I intend on taking one of my lighter rims and using it
> > > with the Atlantis.  Sometimes I consider removing the Nitto rear rack
> > > and replacing it with a mere saddlebag support.  Generally when I need
> > > panniers, I'm taking one of my daughters in the trailer, which means I
> > > don't need the panniers anyway.
>
> > > thanks for the response.
> > > Dave
>
> > > On Feb 8, 4:56 pm, "Doug Peterson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Dave:
>
> > > >  Here's a site with a lot of variety:
>
> > > >http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/
>
> > > > If you happen to find an Atlantis build that was done with component 
> > > > weight
> > > > in mind, please post as it would be an interesting variation.
>
> > > > The Atlantis has always been marketed as a highly versatile, go 
> > > > anywhere, do
> > > > anything bike, suitable for touring, off roading, you name it.  That's 
> > > > why
> > > > you're not seeing any built up as a go-fast.  Big wide tire clearances,
> > > > cantilever brakes, dripping with rack eyelets & even a kick stand plate 
> > > > now,
> > > > doesn't appeal to someone wanting a light, skinny tired bike.  Rivendell
> > > > certainly always has something available that is more suitable for a go 
> > > > fast
> > > > but Rivs not going after any the weight conscious crowd.  
> > > > FWIW, my 58 cm Atlantis (standard Riv build components) with no racks,
> > > > packs, bottles but with Schwalbe Marathon 35 mm tires is around 26 lbs 
> > > > IIRC.
> > > > But the normal setup includes a Nitto Big rear rack, saddle bag, Marks 
> > > > mini
> > > > front rack & bar tube.  That lot tips the scales around 30 lbs without 
> > > > food
> > > > & water.  I'd guess my setup is middling to light compared to some of 
> > > > the
> > > > ones you see with larger tires, baskets, bigger bags, etc.  Us 
> > > > Atlanteans
> > > > just aren't into weight worries - until we've got get the bike on an
> > > > airplane!  
>
> > > > dougP
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave C
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:26 AM
> > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
>
> > > > Anyone have pictures of Atlantis frames built up as road bikes with 
> > > > skinny
> > > > tires, lightweight components, etc.?  The only ones I see on the web are
> > > > generally built up for touring use or roads and fire trails.- Hide 
> > > > quoted text -
>
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