This is the bike I rode and referenced earlier: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/3114399868_ecd36039c0.jpg?v=0
I agree that Carbon is not for everyone, but it is the future of mainstream, modern cycling. And carbon can certainly be repaired and altered as mentioned above. I certainly agree with Jim about the quality of carbon, it matters. But, the quality of a weld matters as well.... Last fall I bought a used Soma Smoothie steel bike. While hanging parts on it, I noticed a crack in the weld. After further investigation (thought it might just be slag), I found it went all the way through the tube. Now, this bike only had 500 or so miles on it when I bought it, so it wasn't a "use" factor. This was just a bad frame... So, it doesn't matter what the material is, quality control matters in them all! As I said before, carbon is not the end all, be all for everyone and I will always have a steel bike. All I can say is that Look rode an climbed better than either my well tuned Riv or my well tuned Salsa... The proof is in the ride.... At least IMHO. :) Chris Addict of all things Bike! On Mar 27, 9:26 am, Eric Daume <[email protected]> wrote: > It just depends on your background. I started out mountain biking, so I like > the looks of a compact frame--I'm used to lot of seatpost showing. > > Eric > Dublin, OH > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, MichaelH <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Patrick makes an interesting point. > > > "Compact" frames are ugly, and if all they come in is a flat black > > they are very ugly. One can argue that beauty is in the eye of the > > beholder, but there are some very ancient and true rules of > > proportion, which can be described mathimatically. A "classic" frame > > design in a 52-62 range is very close to that. For those of us who > > are visually oriented people that's important. > > Years ago I made my living as a custom cabinet and furniture maker. I > > always designed furniture around classical proportions known as the > > "golden cube" and found that always produced an esthetically pleasing > > product. > > > Michael > > Westford, Vt > > > On Mar 26, 7:41 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'll always have a steel bike or two and I still really want an Orange > > > > Ram, but I'll tell you what....Carbon is the future. > > > > I was in a high end (and very successful, even in these thin and > > > piping times) bike shop last week and hefted a couple of high end > > > (circa $6700 sans pedals) Orbeas -- all carbon down to their crank > > > arms. I imagine they weigh less than 15 lbs sans pedals. (We must put > > > some big BMX pedals on them!) And they were GDamn ugly!!! But I felt > > > as if I were holding a newborn baby: "Someone help me before I break > > > something!" I'm quite happy with my 18 lb Riv gofast and my (I'm > > > guessing) 21 lb Riv commuter. > > > > -- > > > Patrick Moore > > > Albuquerque, NM > > > Professional Resumes. Contact [email protected] Hide quoted > > > text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
