So, I'll throw my .02 cents (or is that 2 lbs) in...

I have a 57cm Bleriot with the standard Riv build (bar ends, LX rear,
Nitto cockpit,B17) with the addition of a brass bell, Nitto top rack
with big loafer, kickstand and Maxy Fasty tires. Total weight is
31#.....(wow!)

My other ride is a Salsa scandnium cyclocross bike with mid to low
grade components (Tiagra/105) and Mavic Open Proo/Ultegra wheels. This
bike weighs 20# on the nose with a Terry Fly Ti saddle and 22.5# with
the B17 with a Kevan's bag....  I can tell you there is a VERY
appreciable difference when riding on anything other than flats!

I just test rode a Look carbon bike the other day that weighs in at
18# (verified on the scale), only a couple of pounds more than my
Salsa. I can't even begin to tell you how much better that Look
climbed! It was like it was pushing me up the hills... Carbon and
lightweight isn't the end all/be all of bike riding, but it matters!

I'll always have a steel bike or two and I still really want an Orange
Ram, but I'll tell you what....Carbon is the future.
Chris

**disclaimor: My Riv and Salsa were weighed with the bathroom scale
method**

On Mar 24, 4:46 pm, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some time, not too far back, there was a discussion of the "heavy" 753 tube 
> set used on early Rivendells made by Waterford. Having time on my hands 
> tonight, I dragged a scale out in the garage and weighed my bikes.  All were 
> weighed as is, with regular (in my case 28 to 37 mm) tires, brass bells, 
> steel railed leather saddles, and saddle bags (these were emptied though) 
> Things like pedals and bottle cages, and cylcometers are all attached. Many 
> of you know that the manufacturers who tout how light their bikes are take 
> much of this stuff off and fit the skinniest, thinnest tires they can on for 
> the weighing.
>
> Early Rivendell with "stout" tubes : 22 lbs      650B  32mm tires
> Nashbar Mark III with 26" wheelset: 23 lbs     559     28 mm tires
> Rambouillet:                                   24 lbs     559     32 mm tires
> Saluki (with fenders and front rack )  27.5 lbs   650B   37 mm tires
>
> They all feel great to ride, and honestly, the weight of two filled water 
> bottles on the 1st bike makes it about as heavy as the last without the 
> water!  Of course, weights vary based on equipment, but nothing here is all 
> that heavy, considering what you get for the weight that's there.
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