You nailed it on the head:  what do you want your hands/wrists to feel
like.  Knobbies are completely unnecessary, but some cush is nice!  37mm
Supremes will be perfect!

Hope nobody is getting scared off... really, this is a Rivendell ride on
fire roads.  Nothing agro-downhill-cowabunga-dude about it.  that said, 10+
miles of dirt will wear on you after a bit.

Hope any and all can make it!!!

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Dustin Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Just swapped out the Jack Browns for some “700x40” Schwalbe Marathon
> Supremes for the Rough Riders Ride this Wednesday here in SD, and for the
> Riv ride up in Redlands this Sat. I wish they measured a true 40mm as they
> are labeled, but at 37-38ish, they should at least have a bit more cush than
> the Jack Browns. I had the skinniest tires of anyone on last week’s Rough
> Riders ride, and though I’m proof you can do it with the JBs, my
> hands/wrists did take a beating over SoCals finest golf-ball sized rocks!
>
> Oftentimes, MTBs are overkill and underbiking does have a way of making
> tame trails challenging again, but there are plenty of trails that remind me
> why folks came up with 29x 2.3” tires and suspension!
>
> Dustin
>
>
>
> On 5/10/09 9:06 PM, "David Estes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Aaron, awesome that you got out there!!!  I hope we can do a Riv ride this
> fall up there, so keep on scouting!
>
> Funny how Dustin immediately picked up on the implications of the ride,
> based on the choice of bike.
>
> Hey, hope you can make it out here Saturday, a Romulus w/ Paselas will be
> right at home!
>
> David
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Aaron Thomas <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> I went on a reconnaissance ride in the Santa Monica mountains today,
> covering some of the trails that could conceivably comprise the Rough
> Riders ride, and I'd have to say that Dustin is right on this one.
>
> I put some 35mm Paselas on my Romulus, which were the widest I had on
> hand. I was able to do the fire trails, though it wasn't what I'd
> consider a good time. And when I peered down the canyon walls at the
> various singletrack trails, I said fuggedaboutit, there's no effin'
> way I'm going down there on 35mm Paselas, much less on a road bike.
>
> A wise decision, perhaps, because when I later encountered a couple of
> mountain bikers at a certain fork in the road where one could opt for
> singletrack down the canyon or remain on the fire trail on the ridge,
> they highly discouraged me from following them down the canyon, even
> as they admired the Romulus and were impressed that it had carried me
> as far as I had without incident.
>
> As it was, even on the relatively groomed fire trails, the 35 Paselas
> slid around a lot on the powdery dirt and sharp rocks and pebbles.
> Over the more hardpacked descending stretches where the dirt is grated
> to aid the traction of park ranger and emergency vehicles, the ride
> quality was jackhammer jolting, making control of the bike nearly
> impossible.
>
> It's clearly mountain bike territory, unless you happen to be super
> skilled at riding road bikes over very rough terrain and bunny hopping
> cervices carved by runoff rainwater.
>
> To top it off, by the end of the ride, my rear wheel (32 spoke Open
> Pro/Ultegra) had come significantly out of true. The ish took a
> beating!
>
> Aaron
>
> On May 9, 6:08 pm, Dustin Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > FYI, I’ve ridden with Chris Kostman on a Rough Riders ride here in San
> > Diego. CK often thinks nothing of doing gravel roads and fireroads on
> > 25-35s. So I’m guessing that if he suggests that most people would want a
> > “real” MTB for the ride--he means it.  And the pace for the ride here was
> > definitely spirited.
> >
> > Dustin
> >
> > On 5/9/09 4:54 PM, "David Estes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:06 PM, james black <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 22:35, David Estes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>> > I'd love to do it, but the distance and more so the pace they
> project is
> > >>> > above my ability/endurance... to bad as it would be great.  Make
> sure you
> > >>> do
> > >>> > it so you can lead us on a Riv Ride come this fall!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > >> This ride sounds like it is beyond my ability/endurance as well, and
> > >> the closest thing I have right now to a mountain bike is a road bike
> > >> with 28mm tires and an internal hub gear. And I'm desperately studying
> > >> for an exam I am taking on May 19th. But in a few months I would enjoy
> > >> meeting some folks for a ride in the Santa Monica Mountains - maybe we
> > >> can chart a course for some of the paved roads and fire roads more
> > >> suitable for road bikes, although I don't know the area well enough
> > >> personally to plan a route without doing research.
> >
> > >> James Black
> > >> Los Angeles, CA
> >
> > >>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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