Thanks Steve.  Appreciate that.

On Jun 29, 10:54 am, "Frederick, Steve" <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu>
wrote:
> I have read/heard but not personally experienced that the T-serve has a 
> beefier, thicker tread and sidewall, and is thus is more durable but less 
> pleasant to ride.  In short, more of an urban/commuter tire.
>
> Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Beardpapa
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:05 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel
>
> Any difference between Pasela's and T
> -serv's. Thinking of getting T-serv's in 35. Anyone have experience
> with both?
>
> MichaelH wrote:
> > My daily commute includes ten miles of dirt roads, with three
> > significant downhills.  I have found that the Pasella 32s do better
> > than Ruffy Tuffys on dirt.  My wife uses the 35s.  In winter and
> > spring I use a 37 mm Avocet Cross Tire which works great.
>
> > Downhill on dirt requires a different technique than on pavement.  On
> > pavement I get a good grip on the center of the bars, one knee against
> > the top tube and tuck my head down to build speed and minimize the
> > possibility of front end shimmy.  But that doesn't work on dirt.
> > Instead, set your feet at 3 &  9:00 o'clock, lift your touche of the
> > seat but keep your knees flexible.  Don't hold onto the bars, but
> > instead keep them lightly hooked over the outside of the brake levers.
> > Relax. If done right, very little of the bounce will get transferred
> > to your body.
>
> > Michael
>
> > On Jun 27, 8:16 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I've done a fair bit of Minnesota/Wisconsin bluff-country gravel on my
> > > Marathon Supremes (26x2.0). They offer plenty of traction, and I
> > > always felt confident even on fast descents. A friend did the great
> > > divide on Marathon XR 700x50, and thought they were ok, but on the
> > > heavy side.
>
> > > On Jun 25, 4:47 pm, GeorgeS <chobur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont
> > > > in the summer.  Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find
> > > > descents in particular very unpleasant.  Lots of bouncing around and
> > > > skittishness.  One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other
> > > > has Ruffy Tuffy's.  I have plenty of clearance on both bikes.  Are
> > > > there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break
> > > > the bank?  Jack Browns?  Fatty somethings?
> > > > GeorgeS
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