On Jul 10, 12:12 pm, JGS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I ride my bike for transportation everyday in New York City

yeah, I don't miss that.  i did time in the Bronx.  it's hard to keep
a pristine bike there!  good for you for riding it though, despite the
obvious perils.

> Also, no matter how skilled or light a rider you are,
> you're going to hit some holes hard when riding around NYC.<

that was my point about having a strong wheelset for urban riding - i
don't think super stout frame is a necessity.  a frame with clearance
for fat tires (which the Atlantis has in abundance), yes - that
certainly helps with the potholes.

> But I do feel like it's more likely to still be doing
> that same thing 25 years from now than some other well built steel
> bikes.

that's all that matters, man!  it's great to have confidence in a
bike.

> The 1.5 inch tires soak up the bumps with room
> to spare, plus the more upright position let's me see what going on
> around me.  And when I want to go to the grocery store and load up >a basket 
> and backpack full of groceries I don't think twice about >it. All on the same 
> bike!

I don't think this is unique to the Atlantis.  at all.  In fact, what
you're describing sounds like any number of mountain/touring bikes set-
up for commuting.  The only potential advantage the Atlantis would
have is superior handling at speed with a big load - and in the city,
I don't think that's an issue.  or maybe it is?  handling is
debatable, nonetheless.

one disadvantage that I see is drivetrain - with the amount of
jostling and potential for abuse that you described, derailer damage
seems inevitable.  This is why many folks do the IG (if you need
gears) or ss thing in the city - something the Atlantis wasn't
designed for.

in any event, don't get me wrong - it's clear that the Atlantis serves
the "urban riding" purpose well, in addition to being a fine touring
bike.

>How about the Riv Urban bike?

sounds like two already exist - the Atlantis and the Bombadil.
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