Richie and Peg, are using the tube set they helped develop for Columbus.
Here is the specs:
Spirit for Lugs Tubeset
Long butts for Lugs

DT   31.8mm x .75/.45/.75 x 635
Butts = 120mm/120mm transitions = 40mm/40mm

TT    28.6mm x .75/.45/.75 x 600
Butts = 100mm/100mm transitions = 40mm/40mm

ST   28.6mm x 8/6 x 635
Single butt = 150mm transition = 40mm

CS   24mm(30/16) Oval x .8/.6 prebutted x 425 = 290mm taper

SS  16mm ST x 0.7 x 560 = 300mm taper



This should yield a frame less than 4-lbs.

On Aug 15, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote:

>
> Just out of curiosity, what gauge tubing as used in your old Ritchey?
> And would likely be used by today's makers of lightweight steel race
> bikes, such as Richard Sachs and Dario Pegoretti? Is it even thinner
> than the tubing spec'd for the Roadeo?
>
> On Aug 14, 8:15 pm, Tim McNamara <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> If they succeed in getting the final build below 20 lbs, it would go
>>> some way toward demonstrating that lugged steel and lightweight  
>>> bikes
>>> are not mutually exclusive categories,
>>
>> My steel 60 mg Ritchey road bike weighed under 20 lbs with a 1999
>> Campy Chorus group back in my racing days.  I still use it a lot,
>> although with different parts it weighs about 21 lbs.  Although I
>> suspect that TR spec'd the tubes a bit lighter than Grant is
>> comfortable with, I've put at least 25,000 miles on that bike in the
>> past 10 years and have weighed 200-220 lbs.  Waterford also makes
>> some pretty light bikes out of steel with lugs.  The lightest bike in
>> our house right now is my wife's Riv-era Heron, which is right around
>> 20 lbs dry (but is a 53 cm frame).
>>
>> Unfortunately the public (read:  bike magazine) viewpoint is that a
>> pound of steel is heavier than a pound of aluminum, a pound of
>> titanium or a pound of carbon fiber.
> >

James Valiensi, P.E. C.E.M.
Northridge, CA USA
M.818.585.1796
[email protected]




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