Doug's the champion Atlantis utilizer, by the way! Any bike, anywhere!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3666863547/in/set-72157620523556167/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3298444195/in/set-72157614275209826/ On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote: > > Came in a bit late on this one and had to go back to Riv and read GP's > comments. To me, all this speculation about the end of the Atlantis > is reading a lot into what Grant wrote. I take his words at face > value - either the price goes up or they don't produce in Japan. > Simple economics. If it were produced elsewhere, and made to the same > standards we've come to expect from Rivendell, I for one doubt I'd be > able to tell any difference between my bike and one made outside > Japan. As to a re-design, pray tell why? The Touring Bike has been > pretty well worked out for a few decades now, so other than fiddling > with a few more or less braze-ons, what's to re-design? My Atlantis > is exaclty what I expected. I can load it down like a mule, bounce up > & down rutted tracks chasing you guys, and even keep up with my local > club, at least for a few miles on a coffee ride (cheated and tried > some light wheels for that recently, loads of fun!). But at the end > of ride, it's still just a bike and readily replicated by a competent > builder. I predict we'll see the Atlantis for the forseeable > future. > > dougP > > On Aug 22, 4:41 pm, James Dinneen <jfxdinn...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > An Atlantis was high up on my list of possible bikes when I was in the > market a couple of years ago. I am heavy and the Atlantis seemed indicated > from RBW charts. However, I was in the 56 cm size and thus the bike had 26 > in. wheels. I did not think that the "fun" quality of the ride compared with > the Saluki I tested and the Bleriot I bought. An Atlantis with 650B might be > an excellent option. Just thinking. Jim D. > Massachusetts (waiting for Hurricane Bill to blow into town) > > > > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, JL <subfas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: JL <subfas...@gmail.com> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!? > > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:18 PM > > > > IMHO Fork bends have much to do with order of operations (some > > builders rake the fork first then cut the blades to length and braze > > on the for ends) and technology (hand bending vs machine production). > > Maybe it isn't so much that the Taiwan factory can't make the same > > fork bend, it is more an issue that they aren't set up/trained to do > > the same kinds of fork bends. > > > > There have been some things said in this (super long) thread that > > really make sense. IF the Atlantis is taken out of the line up that > > will mean no more 26" wheeled bikes. Would this mean a phase out of > > 26" wheel support (assuming once all old stock is sold out etc)? I'm > > not trying to start rumors here, just speculation for the sake of the > > thread. I hope riv finds a solution for the Atlantis situation > > because of all the reasons that have already been mentioned - it is > > there "flagship" model so to speak. In addition I think the current > > line up cover the scope of the Atlantis - from AHH, to Hilborne, to > > Bombadill, any one of these three models can be a replacement for the > > Atlantis depending on the desired use. I think, if I understand the > > complaints (both on and off of this list) that might prevent someone > > from buying one of these models instead: 650b is still a weirdo wheel > > size, new models don't have as classic a look (sloping top tube, one > > color paint etc), double top tubes are ugly, weight concerns (either > > too heavy for desired bike or worried bike is too heavy). Ironically > > it may have been that many of the changes in the past 4 or 5 years > > have been do to feedback and requests. I think it all comes down to > > nostalgia. The Atlantis (2) is a fine bike that has come to represent > > Rivendell as a company. I hope they are able to keep it as part of > > the line up. It seems plausible to move production to Taiwan, use the > > same lugs (as mentioned earlier there is no need for new, simple lugs, > > the Atlantis lugs already exist), the same geometry, same fork crown, > > the same tubing thickness (actual tubing may need to change based on > > availability), figure out a way to paint it nicely (or powdercoat > > which tends to be more environmentally friendly) and still bring it in > > framesets that retail under $2000. Maybe they can shoot for half the > > distance between other models and end up at $1500 for a two color > > paint, concessions made when needed Taiwan Atlantis. > > > > jason > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
