That is interesting. I am doubtless not a gourmet, though I have very
definite standards for the taste of a cup. Earlier today I brewed 8 oz of
Costco's San Francisco roast (~$14 for 3 lb, dark) in a press and drank it
black with sugar -- no bitterness beyond what you want from coffee. I do
find coffee from a press "heavier" than that from a Melita filter. Sunday
mornings, brewed the same, was black without sugar. Not the best cup I've
tasted but as good as I get from a Melita.

My next learn-how-to project is the Moka Pot: mine always comes out murky
and somewhat bitter without the "fullness" of coffee taste that you want in
a good cup; heavy but somewhat tasteless -- perhaps too much coffee? Too
fine a grind?

Odd: one thing I like about a press is that I can just rinse it under the
tap and wash all the grounds down the drain.

Horses for courses.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Mike On A Bike <[email protected]>wrote:

> I had used a french press for years and would be horrified whenever I ran
> out of milk and had to drink it black, because of the bitterness. My
> thinking was "coffee is supposed to be disgusting unless you add a generous
> amount of milk".
>
> However, I have found that I get an amazing cup from using 1) a manual
> conical burr grinder (I use the Hario Skerton and love it) 2) an AeroPress
> used carefully with a timer (I complete the brewing process in just under
> 2:00.). I think the grind is absolutely critical and it is an insult to
> good beans (all I use) to use a blade grinder. The Hario only takes about
> 2-3 minutes to grind what I need for a morning, or about the time it takes
> the water to boil. The evenness of the medium-ish grind I use is fantastic.
>
> I think the AeroPress is just about perfect in terms of extraction, and
> the ease of cleanup is a HUGE plus to me. I always dreaded cleaning the
> french press and all the grounds that have to go down the sink. Also great
> for camping!
>
> For those interested in the lore of the AeroPress, here's an interesting
> article on the inventor:
> http://priceonomics.com/the-invention-of-the-aeropress/
>
>
> On Monday, March 17, 2014 1:34:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> A quick followup to the responses. I've applied the Deacon's and others'
>> suggestions and advice for the press and indeed the coffee is much better.
>> I now see that my problem with it -- sour, muddy -- was simply that I used
>> too little coffee and that ground too fine. I do let it steep for more than
>> 4 minutes, actually more or less doubling the total steeping time (even
>> when I don't forget and leave the thing sitting for even longer) and the
>> coffee has been very good. Doubtless it is not at a gourmet level, but it
>> is as good (slightly "heavier") than what I get from a fine grind in a
>> Melita cone.
>>
>> As to the grind, I've used the "breadcrumb" suggestion and simply use my
>> blade grinder in brief pulses; the little bit of fine stuff in the mix
>> hasn't seemed to hurt the brew.
>>
>> So thanks all again. Next up is to work on the Moka Pot.
>>
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