A bit of inner tube stuffed between the seat rails and the loop clamps will 
secure things... think p-clamps, same concept. 

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:30:26 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> These are far better than the old Cyclos, but they still slip. I used tiny 
> hose clamps below the loop clamps to keep them in place, until I decided 
> simply to strap the Nelson/Camper/Hoss/Sackville Med/Junior directly to the 
> (Flite, Turbo) rails, which worked fine, tho' it took force and often 
> pliers to get the straps as tight as they needed to be. At any rate, no 
> problems with occasional 30 lb loads.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Will <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Look here:
>>
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers/velo-orange-saddle-loops.html
>>
>> On 
>>
>  

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