The horse is starting to look sorta bedraggled from all the beating. But....It's not dead yet!
:>) -JimD On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Ron Mc <bulldog...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was certainly joking, but it's always "your mileage may vary" because we > all makes our choices on our perceptions of function - some people don't like > Brooks B17 (I'm Not one of those). > > On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:15:56 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Ron, so were you joking above or just using "empirical" as a synonym for > "objective"? Clearly you don't mean that there is NOTHING objective. My top > tube is objectively 28.6mm in diameter. I objectively rode my road bike 3.6 > miles from the car repair shop to my office. I subjectively enjoyed myself. > The bike subjectively felt fast to me. My Bombadil is objectively heavier > than my road bike and objectively slower with a given effort. Subjectively I > sometimes prefer to ride the Bombadil and sometimes I prefer to ride my road > bike. Just because people have different personal preferences doesn't mean > that there are no objectively measureable quantities in the world of cycling. > Personal preference is subjective, that's for sure. I can't tell you what > you prefer, and you can't tell me what I prefer. But there are plenty of > aspects of cycling that are objectively measureable. Those objective truths > don't have to force your preference, but your preference doesn't change the > measurements either. You just like what you like. > > Maybe what you mean is that there is nothing in cycling that is both purely > qualitative and objective. Everybody makes qualitative judgments for > themselves, subjectively. If that's what you meant, then I agree with you. > > Sorry for delving into Philosophical Phriday. I'm going to sneak out for a > short ride on my lunch-hour > > On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:46:24 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > Bill is pretty accurate there, but I think the truth is nothing is objective > in cycling. It's all subjective. And that's OK. We make our choices for > the function we desire. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
