Turns out they won’t work from the lower eyelets regardless of tilt. At
least not without replacing the bolts and adding spacers at the to all the
connections.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag.  :-)
>
>
> On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:
>
>> Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to
>> round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they
>> end up being on the lower eyelets.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my
>>> car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips.
>>>  Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of
>>> roof-rack mount.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread.
>>>>
>>>> IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my
>>>> double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams.  My
>>>> double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went
>>>> ahead and set it up with my HAR.  Of course I need to bag-match and wait
>>>> for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down
>>>> S24O setup.  I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the
>>>> eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/AAAAAAAAB9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More Photos of the setup
>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets.  It just won't be
>>>>> level, most likely.  Not being level won't cause any problem besides
>>>>> looking tilted.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call
>>>>>> before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that
>>>>>> mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine.
>>>>>> They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on
>>>>>>> mid-fork braze ons.  Will it fit your bike?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets.  If you
>>>>>>> buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or
>>>>>>> Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips.  If you buy a
>>>>>>> Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while.  It was an early
>>>>>>> prototype that I talked them into letting me buy.  For what it's worth, 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share
>>>>>>> that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad.
>>>>>>>  Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out.  Only 
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper 
>>>>>>> eyelets
>>>>>>> and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them.  Only my Bombadil and 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons.  I wish I
>>>>>>> could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my
>>>>>>> Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well.  Oh well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run
>>>>>>> the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it.  Not the 
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of the world but not ideal.
>>>>>>>
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