Pause this video at 21 seconds and you'll see the big blue bike I'm talking 
about:

http://vimeo.com/97744269


On Nov 22, 2014, at 2:40 PM, James Warren wrote:

> 
> The Joe Appaloosa model sounds excellent. Thanks for the description.
> The description makes me think of the big blue bike that sold at the garage 
> sale last June (to Kurt I believe) and can be seen in a photo in the June 9 
> Blug entry.
> 
> Anyway, that alongside Sam sounds like the ideal bike lineup.
> 
> -Jim W.
> 
> 
> On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Grant Petersen wrote:
> 
>> The long mystery bikes (we sold ten) of a few years ago got me/us going on 
>> LW (long wheelbase) bikes. The ride is really good, but they don't fit in 
>> boxes well, for shipping. The dreamy ride of those bikes lead to longer 
>> chainstays on other bikes, and ultimately (well, maybe not ULTIMATELY) we 
>> got our own long chainstays, made to spec, and now we have more options for 
>> other bikes. So...liking the long CS and the LW bikes, in general.
>> 
>> In the trade magazine yesterday I read a guy from SRAM likes 27.5 mtn bikes 
>> because the smaller than 29er wheel "allows shorter chainstays." Missing the 
>> point.
>> 
>> When the Mystery bike was going to go into production, it was going to be 
>> called the Appaloosa, a name suggested by Finn Taylor. I love the name and I 
>> love horses, although I've ridden one only once and it was scary. But 
>> Appaloosas are special horses---I guess all horses are, but I like the 
>> Indian connection to them, and the spots, and the name itself seems 
>> stretched out, so fit the bike.
>> 
>> Then I/andwe-all-here thought that as good as the bike is, we'd never sell a 
>> hundred of them, and that's our minimum for a production run (and generally 
>> our maximum, as dictated by cash flow and risk and space to put 'em and 
>> dread of nervousness...). But in the meantime we had an Appaloosa headbadge 
>> made, and it's really nice, too. So we had badges and no bike and a newfound 
>> fondness for long chainstays.
>> 
>> Then somebody here broght up the idea of a "canti-Sam," kind of like the 
>> "canti-Romulus" man of you know. The Sam is kind of perfect as it is, but 
>> cantilvers never wreck a bike and they have a place for sure, so we shifted 
>> that way. Then the cantilevers lead to why not a hair more clearance and 
>> nudge it toward the Atlantis? And then the long CS came into it all, and so 
>> what for a couple of days was going to be a Canti-Sam turned into a long WB 
>> canti-Sam, but at that point it's a different bike. (The canti-romulus was 
>> exactly a romulus with cantilevers.)
>> 
>> We added 5mm to the fork length and upped the wall thickness of the  top of 
>> the fork blades from 1.0mm to 1.1mm, which is half btw the Sam and the 
>> Atlantis... and then went for Appaloosa, which allowed us to use the head 
>> badge (we have 120 of them, or something.)
>> 
>> But developing means at least one round of samples, and reserving production 
>> time at the shop, and then it also would have meant temporarily kicking out 
>> the Sam, which---how can we do that to a bike so good, and then also risk 
>> not having any bikes to sell in the Spring, something we can't afford, that 
>> would truly be a disaster. I think I said this on the Blug. 
>> 
>> The Clem will have the new wide Hunqa fork crown--flat and normal for us. 
>> That bike is also on hold, same reasons. Bill, you can come by and ride the 
>> bikes--anybody can. Call to make sure it's there, because sometimes it's not.
>> 
>> The graphic above the plate of food in the blug is something else for 
>> another bike that will likely happen in mid-2016. If plans change or I get 
>> too impatient.
>> 
>> On Friday, November 21, 2014 3:01:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> It looks like the new Hub-Area Rack is available, now with a hoop.  Not only 
>> that, it appears to be mounted to the front of a Joe Appaloosa.  You can see 
>> the rings and the tig welds at the headtube.  
>> 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rmf2b.htm
>> 
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