The big Ti benefit that I notice with my Ti B-17 over my three other  
non-Ti ones is the non-rusting properties--a somewhat significant  
factor on the salt/salt strewn bike ways here in coastal SolCal. Worth  
it when I paid $120 for the Ti one, with the now bigger price I'm okay  
with cleaning and waxing the steel ones a bit more often.

Rob

On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:

>
>> Due to the current price hike I wouldn't buy the ti-railed Brooks
>> solely on the difference of weight. But if you have the funds and
>> intend to fit it to your long distance ride the Ti-rails superior
>> ability to dampen road buzz is very noticeable and worth the extra
>> dosh!
>
> I cannot agree that there is noticeable road dampening abilities.
> Every leather saddle feels different from the other because leather is
> an organic material (to be precise - the skin of a dead cow).  People
> who work leather call themselves artisans for a reason.  You cannot
> assume conformity in a dead cow's skin.  You must learn to be able to
> work with whatever nature gives you.
>
> The thickness and preparation of the leather contols road buzz.  Minor
> differences between steel and Ti rail vibration dampening would never
> be enough to counter the differences between one piece of leather and
> another.
>
> On Oct 26, 11:40 am, Pete <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Due to the current price hike I wouldn't buy the ti-railed Brooks
>> solely on the difference of weight. But if you have the funds and
>> intend to fit it to your long distance ride the Ti-rails superior
>> ability to dampen road buzz is very noticeable and worth the extra
>> dosh!
>>
>> On 26 Okt, 15:37, James Warren <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have a Ti Brooks, because when I bought mine, I think they were  
>>> only $120 while the normals were $70. Pretty good deal, worth it  
>>> to save 150 grams or whatever it is, because lighter is better.  
>>> Not worth it now for the price difference. Also, the Ti model at  
>>> the time came in a color which looked greyt.-----Original  
>>> Message-----
>>> From: Bruce
>>> Sent: Oct 26, 2009 6:31 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: Some Ti for Atlantis/Bombadil?weight weenies  
>>> are not often found on any leather saddle. The Ti models offer a  
>>> jewelry cachet to a device that really is just designed to hold  
>>> your bottom while you pedal. It's less elegant to think of it that  
>>> way though :)
>>
>>> I concur with Joel's observations.
>>
>>> From:JoelMatthews <[email protected]>To:RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> >Sent:Mon, October 26, 2009 7:58:51 AMSubject:[RBW] Re: Some Ti  
>>> for Atlantis/Bombadil?
>>> It is a point of rapt debate among weight weenies and those who are
>>> not.  I side with those who say the leather is so thick and  
>>> otherwise
>>> so much the source of the qualities of a leather saddle that any
>>> slight difference in the properties of steel and Ti would be
>>> immeasurable.
>>> What drives the differences in leather saddles is the amount of
>>> leather used, shape of the saddle, and adding springs.- Hide  
>>> quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> >


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