On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Brad Gantt <[email protected]> wrote: > > "I'm not paying someone to advertise for them. I'm paying them for > their skill and time." > -sv > > Interesting perspective Seth but what you describe seems to devalue > the role of the craftsperson/builder in the process.
No I don't think it does. I am valuing their role in the process to guide it. That doesn't mean they get to brand it. Think of your house? If you had a house built, would you expect the architect or the builder to be allowed to put their logo on the roof or the side of the house forever? I would hope not. why is a custom built bicycle any different? > Does your boycott of logos and names include headbadges? boycott makes it sound far more dogmatic than it is. I simply try to avoid them and I remove them when I can. I like headbadges from a 'filling a space' standpoint but it's not the only thing a headbadge can convey is the maker of the bike. > Craftspeople throughout time have marked their work in one way or another. Yes -but giant gaudy logos is not the way I prefer them to do so. > Personally, I know there are plenty of folks who will build you a bike > without decals and logos > of any kind but this is a tough business and I don't mind spreading > the word as long as it's tastefully done. If someone does a good job and I'm happy with the result I will make sure they are spoken well of and frequently to folks around me. I do not need this to be a requirement. > Again, if you simply want a builder to build a bike of your design then > you're probably not going to buy a Rivendell. Even if I want them to design one for me - it does not necessarily require that they are allowed to emblazon logos across it. I am not signing up to ANY process that requires me to be a riding or walking advertisement. If rivendell's process requires that then, yes, you're right, I won't be getting a rivendell custom. I suspect I can find a builder who is capable of building a bike well and properly w/o the logos. Or at the very least inexpensively enough that I can get the frame made w/o painting and have it painted to my requirements w/o logos. -sv --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
