Angus, that sounds a lot like this Atlantis I recently saw locked up
in San Francisco: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4014990734>.

It definitely does look less fancy & theft appealing when you remove
the decals and standard cream-on-green-lug-highlighting paint job, but
the bike still looks classy to me!

-nathan

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Angus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I recall in an early Rivendell Reader an installment of "Who Rides a
> Rivendell" (owners & their bikes), with a gentlemen who had a black
> Rivendell with no downtube decals (don't recall if it had a headbadge
> or not) as a theft deterent.  I believe it was his commuter bike.
>
> Angus
>
> On Oct 26, 2:40 pm, Seth Vidal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, newenglandbike <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Not even a stamp?    No names or logos seems like a pretty strict
>> > requirement for an artisan to adhere to.    I only say this because I
>> > wouldn't call a builder's identity 'advertising' if all it amounted to
>> > was a stamp on the bottom bracket or something, and I certainly would
>> > *not* look at a custom frame as merely equivalent to/a product of
>> > someone's skill and time.   If something as personal as a custom
>> > bicycle frame was built by human hands, whether it be an individual or
>> > multiple people, I think it should have some marking to identify those
>> > hands.
>>
>> I go out of my way to buy clothing that does not have any logos. I
>> don't always succeed but I try. I like my atlantis. I think it is a
>> great bike. I think rivendell is a great company. If I'm buying
>> production items and I'm happy with the company then I'm willing to
>> compromise on my requirements a bit.
>>
>> However, if I'm paying for something to be custom then I expect built
>> into the cost of custom building it is the reality that it will have
>> no markings save the ones I want.
>>
>> I spent hours removing all the logos from almost all the parts on a
>> number of bikes. I've unstitched embroidered logos on pants and
>> jackets. Removed patch logos. (seam rippers are wonderful tools)
>>
>> If someone wants to know what products I endorse then they can ask me.
>> I do not  wish to be compelled to do otherwise.
>>
>> And like I said - I'm not unwilling to compromise, to  a point.( That
>> little laser-etched logo from Velo-orange annoys the crap out of me,
>> though) but for fully custom-made objects I expect no brands or logos.
>> No stamps, nothing unless it is something I request.
>>
>> I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all, especially b/c I don't
>> dogmatically follow this rule.
>> -sv
> >
>

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