there are loads and there are loads - all of my bikes have roadside necessities permanent on the bike. Chore loads require panniers, but not daytrip loads.
On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > +1 for this sensible statement, and +1 for rack + pannier(s). Having used > many if not most of the saddlebags out there, as well as any number of > pannier types, I've always come back to rack + panniers for any serious > loading. If you need a rack for a bag anyway, panniers give you at once the > most volume and the greatest flexibility. Currently I have big ones -- > Ortlieb Rollers -- and small ones -- Ortlieb Sports Packers -- and I can > mix and match as I wish, or forego altogether. And panniers carry the load > lower which, at least for loads of 30 lb and upward, makes the effect on > handling less, IME. > > Even if a decent rack must be more or less permanently installed, panniers > (at least those with modern attachment hardware) go on and come off very > quickly and easily. > > The Tubus Fly is cheapish, light (11 oz), and rated to 20kg. > > All that said, I do have a nostalgia for the old fashioned English > saddlebags, just as I do for M-bars -- even though I find both impractical, > overall, for my needs. > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Will <waller....@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Sometimes you have to accept geometry. It determines what works. In low >> saddle cases, seat bags do not work and you should simply move to other >> solutions. >> >> I'd recommend a lightweight Tubus rack and an Ortlieb pannier. I am 5'6", >> riding the biggest Riv I can fit, a 53 Atlantis. The rack and pannier I've >> installed work great. I have huge capacity, great access to cargo contents, >> immediate on-off bag convenience. I cannot imagine fooling with a saddle >> bag. It would never be as convenient. >> >> Will >> >> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:31:32 AM UTC-5, Ginz wrote: >>> >>> I'm curious to know which bags small frame owners. My saddle height on >>> the Hunq is low enough relative to the wheel that even a small saddlebag >>> cannot be run without a rack to hold it up off the tire (at least when >>> loaded and saggy). Even a Carradice Bagman is too tall. I think I tried a >>> Mark's rack and the tombstone hit the saddle rails. >>> >>> I've got a Brand V bar sack on there, but I need more space for day >>> rides. Any ideas? I'm really trying to avoid a rack as this is more of a >>> trail bike and I've got racks on my other bikes. >>> >>> I wonder if I could have someone modify a Carradice Bagman to shorten it >>> a little bit? >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > > ************************************* > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle > > *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
