time has proved the opposite true. Photobucket used to be 2GB free, you pay for more and you pay for more bandwidth. Now 20 GB and unlimited bandwidth is free.
On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: > > Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, > and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating > even less than recently honestly... > > I would caution that relying on free storage for archiving posts and > photos is dicey at best, even with the big "G" behind it, things will > change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of > their free services before and will again. Trolling through MTBR and > other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible > attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active > services. > > I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so > astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has > become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and > David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a > million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a > few GB. So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well > within a year. > > later > > Tarik > > > > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and >> 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large >> documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to >> the bike lists. >> >> I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB >> messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, >> searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to >> delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the >> most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the >> @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. >> >> I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because >> it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With >> Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore >> the rest. >> >> I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but >> that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. >> >> Thanks for the replies and suggestions. >> >> - David G in San Diego >> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> And it's all in your email? >>> >>> You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and >>> Photos (not email attachments) are using >>> >>> http://account.google.com >>> >> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see >>> images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something >>> sounds good. >>> I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, >>> but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with). >>> >>> Philip >>> www.biketinker.com >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went >>> from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders) which >>> really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think >>> attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the >>> level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender >>> off list, many many people seem to use the google group interface. >>> >>> So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely >>> lost cause. Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used >>> to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in >>> my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I >>> would pretend to speak for anyone else. >>> >>> >>> Later >>> >>> Tarik >>> >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the >>> Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I >>> dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at ~100MB each, CR was at >>> something like 300 MB. Again, for less than a month, that is half a GB of >>> email traffic. Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete >>> travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement >>> anymore, so the more the merrier I guess. >>> >>> I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy >>> mailbox searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, >>> but again we are looking at 1GB of email a year EACH from ibob and RBW. >>> Which is not text. That is images. I don't download images on my phone >>> unless I want them, but it seems like we are way beyond a tipping point. >>> >>> So I think the cat is out of the bag and we won't go back the way it was >>> and it will only get worse, so I think whatever plan I used to have is >>> invalid, carry on into the future you image attaching peoples. >>> >>> Later >>> >>> Tarik >>> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, David Yu Greenblatt < >>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I use Gmail and subscribe to several email lists including iBOB and RBW >>>> (routing the messages directly to All Mail so my Inbox remains >>>> uncluttered). Recently I've been getting an alert from Gmail saying I am >>>> almost at my 15 GB limit for free storage. I would rather not pay Google a >>>> monthly fee for the luxury of additional storage. Searching my Gmail >>>> messages using the term "larger:5m " I found many bike list emails, often >>>> of the For Sale variety, with large photo attachments. I humbly request >>>> that list members consider uploading their photos to one of the many free >>>> sites like Flickr or Picasa and providing a link, rather than attaching >>>> large photos directly to emails. >>>> >>>> If anybody has other suggestions, I'm all ears. I realize there is the >>>> option to browse messages on the Google Groups website but until now I've >>>> found it convenient to have the messages in my Gmail as well. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> David G in San Diego >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Tarik Saleh > tas at tariksaleh dot com > in los alamos, NM, USA, po box 208, 87544 > http://tariksaleh.com > all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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