Dear WETH,

The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it 
loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is 
fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly 
with aluminum. 

Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight as 
you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts back 
to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9" wrench is 
about right) after your first weekend riding. 

Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench 
depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. 
Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg 
taper....

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO


On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
> took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
> Long version: really it is too long: 
> Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, 
> I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was 
> almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not 
> fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large 
> enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand 
> tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit 
> more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by 
> previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to make it to 
> work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and 
> coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
> wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
> had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
> trouble free ride home. 
>
> Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. 
>  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 
>
> About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
> both crank arms to clean and inspect. 
>
> Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
> interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
> no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
> this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
> Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 
>
> Several other questions for the "MacGyvers" and engineers to satisfy my 
> curiosity: 
> 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 
>   
> 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
> fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
> it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 
>
> Thanks, 
> Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
> Houston 
> PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I 
> did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
> favor with the cycling gods. 
>

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