When you say "loaded" and "super heavy", I assume you're talking about the 
bike with substantial luggage.  That gets really awkward, with the front 
wheel wanting to pivot and panniers adding their weight & access 
limitations.  In those situations, I take the bags off & make in 2 moves.  
PITA of course but I can't really lift 50-60 lbs and man handle it up or 
down stairs.  In general, I use Andrew's technique for the bike itself.  
Taking the bags off creates its own set of difficulties in crowded 
situations or sketchy areas.  

dougP

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:06:40 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> silly question, but every time i have to go up or over something, i seem 
> to try a different way of grabbing the bike and each way feels awkward or 
> unstable or bad for me.  i've always been a shoulderer, but a frame pump up 
> along the top tube ruins that, and doing this down stairs with a super 
> heavy bike makes me nervous.  carrying it like THIS 
> <https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0156/2360/products/Bicycle-Frame-Handle-ErinBerzelPhotography-4263_large.jpg?v=1380321457>
>  seems 
> like a good position, but i have too much derailleur/bottle cage action in 
> that area for this to work on my bike. of late, ive been reaching over in a 
> similar fashion and grabbing the seatube, but again, the bottle makes it so 
> that i am grabbing it pretty high up and just lifting with my arms. 
>  considering getting a smaller frame pump that i can put along the seat 
> stay to clear up the top tube for shouldering, but i feel like there has to 
> be a simple maneuver that im missing. 
>
> anyone have this figured out?
>

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