David -- Please don't forget to post that report when your WCs arrive.  I am 
looking hard at that bar as well.  Thanks for the link.

RS

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote:

From: cyclotourist <[email protected]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: NOW: off-road handlebars WAS: Long introduction and  
question on frame and handlebar options from newbie to the list
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:54 PM



On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:48 AM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM, cyclotourist <[email protected]> wrote:


Here's a pic of where I'm bruising my fore-arm:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4087683377/

When I'm grabbing deep into the drops my arm just can't quite clear that corner.



I have my Monocog 29er set up so that I can ride in the drops on most flatter 
and smoother surfaces. Compared to my 3 road bikes, the Salsa Bell Laps are 
wider 46 versus 42), further forward (thanks to the immensely long effective tt 
of the Monocog), and quite a bit higher at 1/2" above saddle, which additional 
height brings them back in to a similar but higher position. Two things result: 
one, your hand and forearm enters the hook at a less acute angle -- more "from 
the rear" instead of 'from above", meaning less contact with the upper part of 
the hook; and, two, the Salsas seem to have more flare than your bars.



Just possibly, more flare and higher and longer stem?

-- 
Patrick Moore 

I have a Dirt Drop stem on now, and it's plenty high.  Definitely could be 2cm 
longer though.  I looked at the B.L. bars and they have a shallower shoulder 
radius, so that probably offers a bit more clearance.  The Dirt Drop bars have 
a pretty tight radius to maximize the flat portion.  


For those of you playing along at home, here are both the B.L. and W.C.:  
http://www.salsacycles.com/handlebars_road.html

I put in an order for the Salsa Woodchipper which should be available later 
this month.  I'll leave the DDs on till then, just knowing I can't ride really 
fast/aggressive on singletrack with them.  If the Woodchippers don't work out 
as well as intended, my fallback plan is to go back to M-bars.  They were great 
for me except for the lack of a drop position.  That only really comes into 
play when I'm doing long road rides in one position though.


It's tough being me.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong 
with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye, scientist guy







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