It's possible to carry more than you think, especially for short distances. I 
have a mini-front rack with a wald basket zip-tied to it at times. Works great 
for groceries. A couple years ago we were out on the bikes on a Sat morning 
stopping at some garage sales. We stop at a sale and there's this plastic tool 
box full of neglected rusty sockets and other junk, but could be cleaned up, 
probably over 20 lbs. No way am I asking the price 'cause I can't carry it. 
Candy asks. It's $3. I had to buy it. I sat it on end in the basket, we bought 
a 50 cent or maybe a dime belt to strap it to my bars and off we went, made it 
home fine, just a couple miles.  Buff up the sockets, and coat 'em with some 
lanolube, they're great.

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:19:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [RBW] Groceries and baskets
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

I have a '97 Riv Road Standard.
I've used a medium Wald on a mini Nitto front rack, with p-clamps to the fork 
legs (Tubus leg clamps are more secure and I will use them if I install the 
mini front again).  
The basket fits fine, but may cause a problem if your bike has a short head 
tube and you use narrow drop bars.
I found the basket to work great for light loads, like the cheese and 
baguettes, or a sweater, or a lightweight sleeping bag.
I found that the basket resulted in lots of wheel flop when I put more than ~5 
pounds in it.  A six-pack of beer in the basket was dicey, and with a 12-pack 
the handling was downright mulish.
Front low-rider panniers (like the Hub Area Rack and bags, or Tubus Tara, or 
Nitto Campee Classic racks) are more stable and can easily carry more weight up 
front than a basket atop the wheel.
You could use the front basket for the bread and cheese, and stash the wine 
elsewhere.  A rear rack/bag setup?  Or, replace one bottle cage with a Salsa 
Anything cage, which would fit a wine bottle just fine.
Tim
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Fred Craven <[email protected]> wrote:
Front or rear?



Now that I'm able to ride a reasonably short distance without cardiac arrest, I 
desire to go to our local grocery store and pick up a few items for dinner (and 
you can be sure that I will get wine cheese and baguettes at least once).



To facilitate this chore I will need "on bike" storage: most likely a basket. 
But where to put it, front or rear? My Rivendell Road Bike is of the generation 
where extra braze-ons were not standard fare. But that's not a problem. I think 
a front basket looks awesome, but rear storage might be more stable. As I'm 
utterly ignorant on the ramifications of this choice so I welcome your opinions.



The geometry is Riv-road, with a delightfully short top tube (thanks to Joel). 
I'm not sure if that affects things, but that's the situation.



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