The SP is an amazing buy. All the performance and 90% of the aesthetics of a 
SON hub at half the price. And better connectors to boot. 

–Eric N


> On Jan 29, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I was a late defender of battery lights, but after trying SONs and modern 
> LEDs, it was no contest: as used as I was to regular charging (using up to 
> date equipment) it was so much simpler to have a dyamo system. And hubs still 
> seem to be the best mix of price, low drag, power, and aesthetics.
> 
> I've tried bb dynamos (not bad but you can't use them with knobbies) and 
> bottles (from Sanyo 6 volts to $300+ 12 volts) but hubs are the best, IMO.
> 
> The SP weighs about 400 grams and costs about $120.
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Doug Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Warning: Heresy and Impiety follow! I know that we are all retro-grouches 
>> here and my AHH shifts 8-speed friction on Silver’s. Friction shifting will 
>> never die so long as I live. But I honestly think that technology has left 
>> dynohubs in the dustbin of history.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I run two Ixon Core battery powered (USB rechargeable) lights. Made by Busch 
>> & Müller; I got them from Peter White, see them here: 
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.asp
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The light output and beam shape are both outstanding. The batteries last 
>> plenty long too (3 hours on high power and 15 hours on low power). But if 
>> I’m going on a REALLY long night ride and/or I want to run the lights at 
>> high-power for the whole ride, I just plug them into my Zendure USB power 
>> bank battery and I can charge my lights even when they are in use. The 
>> Zendure’s come in several sizes from 6,700mAh to 25,600mAh and weights from 
>> 136 grams to 725 grams (for the really ridiculously powered model). The 
>> thing is, even the small ones are enough to run my phone for navigation 
>> (Ride with GPS sucks power in navigation mode) and my lights at full power 
>> for much longer than I need. I keep the Zendure in my Sackville TrunkSack 
>> Small and the lights and bag are both mounted on my front Mark’s Rack.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dyno hubs on Peter’s website weigh from 575 to 720 grams and cost from $257 
>> to $426. USB battery banks like the Zendure weigh less and cost less than a 
>> dynohub. They also power more stuff (mostly 2 outputs but 4 on the big one) 
>> than a dynohub. They provide power for as long as a mortal can ride and 
>> don't require a special wheel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So…why do we still ride dynohubs?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
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