Thnx for suggestions. I believe the ui-12 is too short. I need more than 80mm 
above min insertion line. And thanks for the Google heads up, but that is the 
first thing I did, but didnt turn up much which is why I asked here.

Thnx for the ti cycles tip, looks promising. I'll check Bruce Gordon too but I 
need a face plate to put a Jones Loop bar on. I'll contact him and see if he 
does face plates.

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