Hi René!  Congrats on sticking to the low carb stuff - I've been off and on 
for a while - like most diets, I find it hard to "stay different" from what 
others are eating around me.  Need to find the zen chi and become myself...

As far as what to eat on longer rides, here's my take.  I did brevets for a 
few years before low carb and used stuff like Perpetuum which is just 
maltodextrose (carbs) mixed with water.  Easy to get down on longer rides, 
and kept me from bonking, but not satisfying at all.  Everyone was 
different.  One guy ate dried fruits and seaweed chips - seemed like a pro 
to me.  Others ate lots of junk and gels.

On the Oregon Outback trip last year, I went with mainly coconut, nuts, and 
meat/cheese snacks.  This worked great - did five 70+ mile days and never 
felt like I was hungry.  Here's a pic of what I packed (wayyy too much, BTW 
- had half of it left at the end of the trip):

https://flic.kr/p/u3G4Nk

Just bring something with salt, and plenty of water, and you'll be fine. 
 If you feel like your are tired, stop and take a rest.  

Brian

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:41:27 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been low carb high fat for about a year now, with some relapses. Lost 
> the 40 lbs between May and October last year, then plateaued, probably went 
> a bit off with and gained 10 lbs after the holidays which I've about just 
> lost back again in the last 8 weeks, albeit slowly and with some relapses.
>
> 7 weeks ago, I also started riding aerobically after discovering the 
> Maffetone method and signed up to do the 72 mile ride around Lake Tahoe 
> next Sunday.
>
> During this "training period" I noticed that since I was already quite fat 
> adapted, I had no trouble doing my bike rides on no food in the morning, 
> and that ensuring I didn't exceed my Maximum Aerobic Function HR of 124 
> (for my sweet age) I started managing to do the longer rides I previously 
> couldn't do without a lot of suffering and bonking. To stay in the aerobic 
> base building zone, I mostly chose flat rides and on the short climbs I 
> couldn't avoid, slowed to a crawl. Balance training I call it.
>
> Last Sunday, I did a 42 mile ride in just under 4 hours. This week I've 
> ridden twice to work and back, total of 36 miles each day, just split in 
> two rides. The afternoon rides home are with a very strong head/side wind, 
> where again, I have to slow down significantly and take it like 
> "meditation". Character building I call riding 18 miles with a constant 
> headwind.
>
> On all these rides I only drink water, nothing else. But when I get home I 
> feel like I can't keep riding. Once I rest a bit I feel fine, although my 
> legs and my butt "feel" it.
>
> I don't think I can do the 72 mile ride next Sunday on just water, so I'm 
> looking for some guidance and suggestions for how to fuel myself without 
> making it all sugary with gels and the traditional cycling fuels. When I 
> first did these long rides with Team in Training in 2005, I would finish so 
> bloated from all the gels I needed to take just to keep going, and also the 
> pace was too high for me. This time I'm riding by myself so I can control 
> my pace and my nutrition.
>
> I'm also hoping that during the day of the ride, I'll somehow find a way 
> to ride for 7 - 8 hours. Right now, it seems impossible as my longest ride 
> has been 4 hours, and most of my rides are around 2 hours. Suggestions are 
> also welcome.
>
> I know there is a lot of "mental" stuff needed to do these long rides, as 
> well as more aerobic training and losing the other 40+ lbs I'm still 
> carrying on me. I'm just hoping that persevering will make them truly 
> enjoyable, vs. fighting to just finish them.
>
> I welcome any other tips as well regarding managing the long hours on the 
> saddle. Frequency of stops to stretch out, rest the butt, hands, feet, 
> etc.? I know I can always get bailed out if necessary, but I'm going to try 
> to do the whole ride.
>
> Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback!
>
> I'm riding my Homer. Is anyone from this list going to do the ride as well?
>
> Best,
>
> René 
>

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