Not sure how "trashed out" zip ties really are, visually speaking. Two examples:
First, I used a couple green "fence ties" on my Kuwahara, to keep my Baggins from moving too much on the rack. I zipped it, and was about to trim, when I noticed it hit the tire in such a way as to remind me of a tire saver. So for the heck of it, I left it long. Now it doesn't hit the tire any more, so I guess I should give it a clipping. (This was fairly recent, the bag occasionally gets moved around.) Second, I used some zips for attaching a wire basket (brand unknown) to a Surly 8-Pack. Obviously, aesthete that I am, I went to my stash of black zt's, to match the colorway of my Clementine. I find them hard to notice even when the basket it empty, which it often is not. In the case of the Baggins/green zips, if I were a normal person and trimmed them, they would be unseen. Wherein I Go On Some More About Zip Ties In the Scheme of Things In the used furniture dealer business, there is something known as a "frank repair." (Don't google unless you need your cars or shoes fixed by a guy named Frank.) This refers to a repair done simply to get the thing useable again--a drywall screw in a chair leg, or a piece of duct tape on a vinyl chair. Older examples sometimes had a real charm, though, and were often left alone--maybe something like a chair leg splinted with baling wire. I think, although zipping a basket is not technically a repair, it is done in a similar spirit--hey, this works just fine, no need to fuss too much--let's go ride! I don't look at Rivendells as artisanal, or fancy-pants. They are expensive in terms of what the average citizen would expect to pay for a bicycle, but that is because they cost that much to make a long-lasting, beautiful, useful machine and still make a living and pay people decently. The fact that the owner wraps his bikes in string or puts stickers on fenders or lets handlebar tape get ratty or uses zip ties to hold on a basket is, to me, consistent with the company's overall approach to bicycles, not contradictory. Though I certainly understand those who want to keep their machines on the classy side of the street. Like I said, it's a personality thing. <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YCAtUhBJhIs/V1eBtDPFKKI/AAAAAAAAG4Y/ovdzOw_fH_sGOui75eTAr3MamdyB__jFwCLcB/s1600/IMG_0061.JPG> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jzrZglcReH4/V1eBdREb6SI/AAAAAAAAG4I/744TwHBQtckIw3AhT-Dheekvj1WRv_WCwCLcB/s1600/IMG_0064.JPG> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K_RIuPk5Hd4/V1eBfo-jYaI/AAAAAAAAG4Q/JzXcYIgbRhMb4MSobAQd1Cqt2UNuEdkFQCLcB/s1600/IMG_0063.JPG> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:55:26 PM UTC-4, masmojo wrote: > > LOL, thanks for having my back there Steve! It really matters little what > the zip ties actually cost, if they were gold plated they would still look > bogged together. And my comments are not focused on any particular > individual, just everyone out there on the interwebs. JMHO, but if I am > riding a ratty old Schwinn or whatever, then zip tie away! But, I paid a > considerable amount of coin on a brand new Rivendell, I can't bring myself > to trash it out with zip ties, I prefer something a little more elegant. > My solution although labor intensive was only marginally more expensive > because I used Stainless steel hardware, if I'd have used inexpensive > galvanized hardware it would not have cost me much different than 8 zip > ties & it looks so much better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
