On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:12 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 10, 5:01 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still
>> haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the
>> latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the
>> brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control
>> 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is
>> essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire.
>>
>> I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles
>> Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would
>> be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told
>> me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender
>> with catastrophic consequences.
>>
>> I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the
>> road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered
>> there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon
>> Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders?
>>
>> Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with
>> fenders.
>>
>> René
>
> A lot of things would have to happen for a rock or other debris to
> cause the scenario you described.  If those things did come together
> and you have a bike with steel fenders, you could wind up crashing -
> maybe even going over the handlebars.  SKS breakaway fenders do not
> look nearly as good as Berthoud but would be more safe.
>
> Tires are personal choice.  I would not want to use Extremes on a bike
> that is mostly on paved roads.  I think the big Supremes or the more
> supple Big Apples would better suit you.

Installing plastic fenders with break-away tabs seems in theory the
right choice for offroading + fenders, but really it's worse when you
think it through and compare a stick getting caught in a stay.

On a plastic/break-away fender a stick can easily dislodge the
break-away stay, which is annoying at best, and dangerous at worse if
the stay in turn catches on something else. In addtion, the rear stays
don't have a break-away feature, so a stick lodging in the fender can
easily crumple/tear/mangle a plastic fender and take you down.

Compare this to a alloy or steel fender that has stronger and more
rigid stays. Any stick that is small enough to lodge/get caught in
between the stays is much more likely break before the stay or fender
deforms or fails.

As for rocks getting caught/lodged in the fender, you just need to set
it up correctly (regardless of fender type): make sure the gap at the
entrance (bottom) of the fender is slightly smaller than the gap at
the exit (top) of the fender.

-- 
John Speare
Spokane, WA USA
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/

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