Buying bike parts from amazon is a whole different story. Those are mostly
from 3rd party sellers, and generally have longer ship times and you pay
for shipping. My point was that big online retailers sell at both very thin
margins and free (or close to free) shipping, because they deal in volumes
in the matter of billions of dollars. Small vendors can usually only pick
one: thin margins or free/cheap shipping, hard to do both, but what do I
know as my only experience is from ebay-ing bike parts and records.

On the price thing, I realize there are better deals on the internet, but I
still feel that Riv prices very competitively for the most part. Cheaper
than full retail, but not as cheap as online discounters. And of course we
like to give Rivendell our money over other vendors :). I can buy a black
brooks b17 for $122 from amazon or $130 from Rivendell, or $135 from REI.
If I was buying one today I'd buy the Rivendell for the extra $8 (though
I'd need to pay $10 shipping or find another $20 to spend to get free
shipping)

Alright, now that Brexit has been brought into the conversation can we
switch to less political topics like helmets, battery lights vs. dynamo,
and bike weight vs. rider weight ;)

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:20 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> They won't be commonplace forever. You might look at Brexit as the
> beginning of the end of globalization. Why? In a nutshell, because there
> are limits to growth, and we are hitting them, big time. Sorry to burst
> anybody's bubble, but our kids will not be getting packages delivered via
> Amazon drones.
>
> I do not buy from Amazon as it is my opinion that its business methods
> help destroy local economies. One reason I enjoy supporting Rivendell is
> because of its approach to business. I've expressed this in other threads,
> but please add my voice as someone happy to pay, while I can, something
> even approaching the real cost of shipping, not to mention treating people
> well and trying to pay them a living wage. I rarely need something so
> desperately that I can't afford to wait and order a few things from Riv a
> couple times a year. There is something to be said for anticipation. Half
> the excitement of ordering when I was a kid and Allow 4 to 6 weeks for
> delivery was standard was checking the mailbox every day after a week had
> gone by.
>
>  A year ago last May though, I waited till the last minute to buy my
> youngest brother a birthday gift. We don't get each other birthday
> presents, but I was feeling guilty because I had forgotten to call on his
> birthday the previous several years. I splurged and got him a Granfors
> small forest ax, then paid an obscene amount to have it delivered overnight
> next day Saturday from Riv headquarters completely across the country to my
> bro in Brooklyn (he's not a lumbersexual, his wife's family lives in the
> Berkshires and they spend a lot of time up there). He probably doesn't even
> use it. I still feel a little queasy thinking about the extravagance.
>
> On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 1:10:02 PM UTC-4, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> But they aren't ridiculous expectations when they are commonplace.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Keith Muller <pharm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can thank Amazon for the ridiculous expectations that some buyers
>>> have now days!
>>>
>>> Keith "who patiently waits for his package to arrive someday" Muller
>>>
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