Why, thank you!  I can't wait to see the Berthouds on there - steel on
steel.  I think the mudguards will come off even earlier for this
weekend's So Cal Riv Ride.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Dec 18, 2:47 am, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Esteban,
>
> That is one NICE looking bicycle!
>
> Angus
>
> On Dec 16, 1:02 pm, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well, I've found out something I've wondered for a long time.  Hetres
> > fit on my Protovelo.  But its a tight fit under the 50mm Honjos!
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
>
> > That, combined with the stickiness of the new rubber, may be the
> > reason why pebbles are making a racket in the fenders as I've ridden
> > it around this morning.
>
> > I could make this work.  But I'm really thinking of the 50mm
> > Berthouds.  The bike has a tight fit anyway -- larger fenders may
> > cause more fit problems...
>
> > Esteban
> > San Diego, Calif.
>
> > On Dec 15, 10:13 pm, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo.  Its very tight under 50mm
> > > Honjos.  I'll post photos tomorrow -
>
> > > I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
> > > to give the tire a hug.  I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
> > > better in that regard.  I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
> > > do surgery at the chainstays.  Because there isn't much clearance
> > > (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
> > > think big honking fenders would work as well.
>
> > > More tomorrow...
>
> > > On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel <nath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend  
> > > > I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in  
> > > > order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the  
> > > > fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still  
> > > > pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
>
> > > > But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
>
> > > > -nathan
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd <ginoza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
> > > > > just fine on the Saluki.  I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
> > > > > recently upped them to the 50mm.
>
> > > > > -gino
>
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
> > > > >> stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
> > > > >> Honjos.
>
> > > > >> Anyone have any experience?
>
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