Curious what kind of Santana you have,and is it set up with upright bars. I 
have been on the HHH list, but my circumstances have changed and I cannot 
afford one. I was lucky enough to pick up a Santana Vision, circa early 90s 
with 7speed bar ends and 26" wheels. I put on 2.1 Tioga powerblocks and 
some crank shorteners. Waiting for some long cable and I will swap the 
front drops for Boscos or Albatross, but on our short test rides, I really 
like it. Does not exhibit tank-like qualities. I'm hoping it is 87.6 
percent of the HHH.

I would dearly love to get an the HHH, and I also don't like to go on about 
a "poor man's Rivendell" but there is just no way I can even think of 
getting one. I do think they will be highly sought after in the future, 
based on reports that they have a Clemish ride quality.

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 7:58:15 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote:
>
> The captain definitely needs to be able to stand solidly with both feet on 
> the ground.  The stoker need not be able to straddle.  If their legs are 
> too short for the little ones, then you can get crank shorteners that will 
> allow you to get an extra inch or two higher in terms of legs being able to 
> reach the pedals firmly.
>
> --My wife says I need to get rid of our Santana tandem if I want to buy 
> the Riv tandem (she is the voice of reason). The Santana rides like a tank 
> compared to the Riv tandem which I test drove. With that said, does anyone 
> want to buy my tank?  :)
>
> Toshi
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Ginz <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> Not that I have $1,600 in my art budget, but I would love to buy one, 
>> hang it on the wall and await he growth of my children.
>>
>> However, that standover on the smallest size is just about .5 to 1.0" too 
>> much for me to even possibly straddle, which, on a tandem, seems important.
>>
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