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I wear them comfortably with no baselayers to 30ish degrees. I pair them with short sleeve wool baselayer, Rapha Brevet Jersey, and Rapha Insulated Gilet long sleeve wool baselayer colder than that with neck gaiter, and thicker helmet cap. if it gets super cold, i'll add my Chrome Ike Windshirt over. Usually the windshirt comes off halfway through my commute. i commute about 9 miles there, and 9 miles back, 2.5 miles pretty steep uphill in the morning against strong winds on a bridge right before the hill, so i'm working up a sweat halfway through for shoes i wear my hiking shoes with seal skinz socks On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-5, Ash A wrote: > > Philip, > > What temperature ranges do you use it for? Did you have to wear a base > layer under these pants in winter? > > Thanks, > > -Ash > > On Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:48:04 UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote: >> >> Makers and Riders 3 season commute pants. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.