http://makersandriders.com/collections/all

I wear them comfortably with  no baselayers to 30ish degrees. I pair them 
with short sleeve wool baselayer, Rapha Brevet Jersey, and Rapha Insulated 
Gilet

long sleeve wool baselayer colder than that with neck gaiter, and thicker 
helmet cap. if it gets super cold, i'll add my Chrome Ike Windshirt over. 
Usually the windshirt comes off halfway through my commute.

i commute about 9 miles there, and 9 miles back, 2.5 miles pretty steep 
uphill in the morning against strong winds on a bridge right before the 
hill, so i'm working up a sweat halfway through

for shoes i wear my hiking shoes with seal skinz socks


On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 12:34:34 AM UTC-5, Ash A wrote:
>
> Philip, 
>
> What temperature ranges do you use it for?  Did you have to wear a base 
> layer under these pants in winter?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Ash
>
> On Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:48:04 UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Makers and Riders 3 season commute pants.
>
>

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