I've got the Ortlieb front roller classic with the QL2.1 system. (Sorry at work can't take a photo but here's a link <https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61LEv9RScHL._SX355_.jpg> for now.) I've got the top hooks separated almost all the way, and the bottom hook is close to one corner (of that "smiley" track on lower part of the rear.)
My experience with panniers is that the back is relatively flat with all the mounting mechanisms sticking out, and for mounting there are two "hooks" up top then some mechanism to stabilize the bottom from swinging away from the rack. Fit comes down to three things for non-disc brake* forks: - The three "touch points" on the bag line up with places on the rack where those touch points can attach. - The mechanism for the three touch points on the bag fit snugly where they attach to the rack. (On the Ortlieb, the manufacturer provides plastic spacers to adjust the hook opening to the diameter of the rack, while the opening of the bottom hook varies along its length plus it can rotate. More common is a bungee/metal hook combo.) - The bag is positioned in such a way that there's no interface around it. For the front, that's most likely the distance between the bottom of the bag with the floor, but the top of the bag could interfere with the brake/brake cable or front bag/basket if it's tall enough. *[Having a disc brake means the caliper is bracketed by the front rack. I didn't have issues with fit, but I found I had to set the pannier a certain way to make it easy to put and take off.] So, the HAR seems like it would work well with the standard 3-point, rear-is-flat, small-ish pannier bags. Here, small-ish here is that the bag doesn't extend much beyond those touch points. You can use the Ortlieb sport roller bag <https://www.ortlieb.com/en/Sport-Roller%20Classic/> - the front roller is discontinued - as a template to compare the pannier bags you're considering. --Ed On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:24:40 PM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote: > > I'm back to adding front bags to my Sam. I searched, but did not find info > on whether the HAR will accept non-Riv bags, such as Lone Peak or Swift. > > I understand Ortleib will work, and saw the thread about adding their > mounting hardware to Riv bags, but not interested in that solution. > > Anybody with first-hand knowledge of fitting non-Riv bags to the HAR? > > Thanks, > > Neil > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
