I recently put some plastic PB fenders on and had some of the same 
reservations, especially since I'm in central Texas where it has only 
recently (last couple years) seemed like rain is in the forecast more 
often. I mostly got them so I wouldn't have to wash my bike after rainy 
rides and to avoid the dreaded muddbutt, but now I'm wondering if it's 
worth it, especially because this is my do-it-all bike. And when it rains 
here during the summer, there's not much I can do to stay dry that won't 
cause me to sweat through my clothes anyway. My usual tactic for getting 
through the rain is to wear a cycling cap, grin and bear it. 

The PB fenders are kind of frustrating because the metal bracket that holds 
the fender stays to the fender bends down a good centimeter directly 
towards the wheel. To stop it from hitting the tire when going over bumps 
or going at speed, I've had to pull the fender even further from the tire 
which then makes it easier for the whole thing to sway and perpetuates the 
problem. 

If I get rid of the fenders, I plan on finding some corrugated cardboard 
sign (the coated political yard sign kind) and sticking it between my 
saddlebag and rear rack to act as a frugal Ass Savers (also Ass Savers 
don't keep muck from getting all over and up into the bag). If that works 
okay I might upgrade to some hard plastic vinyl or something. 

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 1:42:17 AM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> I have been using fenders now for a few years on my Rivbikes, but I get 
> nervous sometimes. Where I live it rains pretty often and lotsa sticks on 
> the shoulders.
> I have heard about the stick jamming effects that can happen, and 
> sometimes I wonder if using fenders is worth the risk.
>
> For instance, it would be easier for me to just clean myself and the bike 
> after a rain ride than to heal up after an endo.
>
> Also, Unless it is a very light rain, I get soaked anyway, even in quality 
> rain gear and shoe covers, from sweat/rain. Shoes become marshlands despite 
> shoe covers, etc.
>
> Today I rode 30 + miles in a light rain with full fenders and quality rain 
> gear. Arms soaked, back soaked, head soaked, hands soaked. Rest of me was 
> dry. So it worked pretty well. But that was a continual light rain.
>
> I got heavily rained on in the last 5 miles of a metric century last year, 
> in same gear and full Honjo fenders and was drenched to the bone, sloshing 
> sneakers, whole nine. I may as well have been without fenders the whole 
> ride and not had the stick jam crumple fender risk.
>
> *How do you cope on long rainy rides if you don't use fenders?*
>
> I wear wool to keep warm, but if I get drenched anyway, what's the use of 
> fenders if there is the endo risk? One injury endo would pretty much negate 
> all the cleanness and dryness I have had. And I would probably swear off 
> fenders forever.
>
> Rethinking rethinking.
>
> Here is a shot from today's rainy ride. Enjoy!
>
>
>

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