Jeff: just saw this. I mean, fenders and properly weighted raincape keep my
backside dry *during* downpours and *while* riding through deep puddles. My
feet and legs to knee get wet, but not anything above the knee (the knee is
more or less the dividing point). Perhaps you didn't see my reference to
the rain cape.

(This isn't addressed to Jeff, but to the person starting the thread.) With
the mileage Steve P does, I have to give some weight to his observation.
*(Reluctantly.)* And once again, how many millions of riders ride daily and
have ridden daily for a century or more with fenders, and without incident?

Patrick Moore, who just rode his fenderless gofast on the hilly and windy
westside (to and around and about the Petroglyph Nat Mnt area) *without any
fenders whatsoever!*

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 05/27/2017 03:19 PM, Jeff Lesperance wrote:
>
>> Patrick - are you speaking about keeping your backside dry traversing
>> deep puddles and gutters AFTER the downpour or during? I say during a
>> downpour, your backside is getting wet from above enough such that any tire
>> spray from below is negligible in terms of wetness, though it may be more
>> foul from below, but yes, after a downpour, fenders will work wonders in
>> any depth of water to keep spray off of the feet and the back.
>>
>
> "Tire spray from below" is never "negligible".  And "more foul" hardly
> begins to describe it if you are riding in a place where Amish and
> Mennonite buggies have been using the roads -- as is the case in areas of
> Southern Maryland where I ride, and in Lancaster PA (where the Covered
> Bridge Metric seems to have rain about as often as it does not).
>
> As for the subject of this thread: let me say today I cheated death yet
> again, as I have done time and time again over the years.  I've never
> picked up a stick, and when Jan Heine inquired on this subject among the
> old French randonneurs they'd never seen crumpled metal fenders.  If you
> ride roads and use metal fenders and have proper clearance in your
> installation, then pretty much this is a non-issue about on a par with
> worrying about being struck by lightning.
>
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