BTW, I'm particularly interested in knowing if those Holdfasts retain
better than slightly tightened straps, for the (climbing" reason mentioned.

Do Power Grips hold your non-slotted-cleat shoe in place better than just
slightly tight straps?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Chris. I will indeed try retentionless, if I do get the Gripsters
> or the VO Sabot (which takes clips and straps). But I so often pull rather
> strongly upward or backward when climbing that in fact, rather than either
> of these, I may simply go back to SPDs.
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:30 AM, christian poppell <smov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Have you tried just using flat pedals without straps? I use them on my
>> multi speed and fixed gear and have not had a problem with my feet flying
>> off. On the fixed gear, which sees a lot of offroad, slow cadence hill
>> climbing, I am able to pull on the upstroke by pointing my toe downward
>> (also works in flip flops). A differet technique but it does work.
>>
>> Christian
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