Good point; definitely a question of tolerances; up for debate whether a
matter of QA.

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd say it's a judgement call whether or not it is a quality control
> issue. In manufacturing, you always set a standard for precision. Take
> chains. Modern bicycle chains are ½ inch pin to pin. Are they exactly ½
> inch? How do you define "exactly?" To what tolerance? If you set the
> tolerance to within a certain number of atoms, say three atoms, and if you
> could actually produce them to that degree of precision, you would get
> really precise chains. But does a bicycle chain have to be produced to that
> degree of precision? We all know the answer.
>
> With a rear derailleur, the chainring can work perfectly well with more
> runout than would be acceptable on a track bike. And the runout that's
> acceptable on a track bike used for a local club race would probably not be
> acceptable to a top professional competing at the world championships.
>
> PJW
> Peter White Cycles
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all. I'm going to replace this 48 with another that I have, and
>> hope that the other one is more "true."
>>
>> And: if anyone has 3/32 * 48 t 50.4 bcd rings to sell or trade -- *in
>> very good condition, please!* --please lmk.
>>
>> * I use 9 speed chains 'cuz I use Dingle cogs.
>>
>> Peter: Then the upshot is that these old rings are just often out of
>> round -- poor quality control? I've noticed some runout on the many other
>> Pro 5 Vis rings (all older ones) that I've used for fixed gear drivetrains,
>> but never to the extent of this one.
>>
>> Makes me wish I still had my 20 lb box of Stronglight 49 cranks and rings
>> ... I've notice slight runout with Stronglights and other cranks and rings,
>> but not as with TA and certainly not as with this particular ring. And,
>> it's the ring; the 46 t ring, also older Pro 5 Vis, that this 48 replaced,
>> didn't have nearly the this degree of runout.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 5:30 AM, Peter White <peterjwh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rotating the ring will make no useful difference, though it will tell
>>> you how much of the runout is in the ring and how much is in the crank.
>>>
>>> While the Pro 5 Vis crank can be used as a single speed, it was never
>>> intended for use without a chain tensioner, which rear derailleurs include
>>> by default. So TA doesn't need to be very precise in centering the ring or
>>> the crank itself.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Justin: I don't get it: it's not bent, it circumferentially eccentric --
>> as many of the others I've used are, too; just a lot more so.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Justin Hughes <justinhug...@me.com> w
>> rote:
>> Right. That's one reason why SS intended rings are thicker and stiffer,
>> right?
>>
>>
>> Brian: it's rather new, in fact; age and wear is not the problem.
>>
>>  On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Brian Campbell <bdcampbel...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Simply time for a new chainring. Things do eventually wear out and have
>>> to be replaced or discarded. I consider it a positive outcome when if comes
>>> to bikes.
>>>
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