On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 6:15:20 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Which brings me to another question: What are the effective geometry/other > design differences between the MMMs and the Clem Ls (other than the lift a > tube, which the Clem L already naturally possesses)? Shorter virtual top > tube, so that drops can be used? >
I was interested in this frame, and spoke with Roman on the phone about it briefly the other day. Versus my 52cm Clem (H, but I think the L has similar or identical geometry), the R05C0 8U883 not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever has a slightly shorter top tube (59 vs 61cm), somewhat shorter chainstays (don't remember the exact number), the Appaloosa fork instead of the Clem fork (so, slightly narrower max tire size), and no lugs except the fork crown. And, of course, it's a not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever like the Cheviot, and not a full step-through like the Clem L. I wonder if the lifter tube adds enough stiffness down by the bottom bracket. I found on my Clem H 52cm that I wasn't really comfortable with a dirt drop stem and handlebar, but it was a fairly close thing. It's possible that the R05C0 8U883 with dirt drop would work for me. But I'm pretty long-torsoed. Your mileage may vary. In the end, I decided I'm content with my Clem H for the purposes to which I put it, so I think I'm going to pass on getting in on the next batch of these - not different enough, though it's a very interesting frame and I look forward to seeing more of them built up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
